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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by Jamin280672, Jul 20, 2018.

  1. Mensy

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    i cannot see them on the forest
     
  2. Potatowithearsontheside

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    ...and neither can Intel, otherwise their 10nm CPUs would be out already, and not 3 years late already.
    Fact is, AMD have at least managed to get something new out of the door, whereas Intel are launching the 9900KFC...which is nothing but a binned 9900K, meaning that anyone now buying a vanilla 9900K is just getting the stock version with absutely no overclocking headroom at all.
    I do wonder if the reviewers will review the performance of 9900K CPUs that are made after the KFC comes out.
     
  3. Oblivion007

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    Spent 15 mins trying to find the video then re-read the post and worked it out.

    Seems I'll still have to wait before deciding on the CPU front. I'll (hopefully) have my bargain price taichi to look at in the interim :p
     
  4. Lolik

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    Best summary of em all :D
     
  5. Jokester

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    By the time 3950X is out as well, all the BIOS teething issues will be fixed you would think, so it will be good to revisit the performance again.
     
  6. SiDeards73

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    Type in 3800x And and scroll down
     
  7. Harbz

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    just ordered a 3700X from rainforest due to having some vouchers. I originally wanted a 3800x but reading the reviews today I think the extra £60 didn't seem worth it. I hope I don't regret this choice.

    Also I will be running it on my Asus Prime Pro X370 board. I haven't seen any mention of the new chips on older 300 series chipsets so I hope its ok.
     
  8. Potatowithearsontheside

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    They are.
    PPT on 65w CPUs is 88w.
    PPT on 105w CPUs is 142w.
    What you get with a 3800X is a CPU that can be pumped with more power whilst remaining within it's warranty.
    If you plan overclocking, manually or via PBO, then the 3800X would seem pointless.
    Just looks like market segmentation to me.

    Edit: current limits whilst thermally constrained are also different; 60A versus 95A. Limits when not constrained are also different; 90A versus ~142A IIRC.
     
  9. Journey

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    There is, most of the big retailers seem to have been stung by the late shipments meaning couriers didn't deliver in time, which is probably due to the silly launch on a Sunday, you should expect to see all the places you'd normally look which them available tomorrow morning.

    WTF does ikea, delete very and missed out even mean?

    I assume you ordered a £240 X570 Taichi, or you still got your nose up Gigabyte's bottom?
     
  10. DragonQ

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    I was going to order from rainforest due to vouchers too, but they are pre-order estimated delivery time 4 to 7 days. Sod that! :D
     
  11. esoteric

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    Well I crumbled and have partially ordered my new build. I'm in no rush to order everything so for now I ordered the ASRock Taichi x570 from the same place everyone else did ;) and it's pre-ordered too so I can cancel it if OcUK's price adjusts or if the price is not honoured I'll get the Gigabyte Aorus Elite instead.

    Seeing as I've kept this i7 930 for 9 years I might as well get the 3900X but I'll keep checking reviews.
     
  12. jigger

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    AMD have faster IPC.
     
  13. Mensy

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    Found thanx
     
  14. Harbz

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    I bet they ship before then, would be shocked it it doesn't ship before Wednesday at latest.

    Now I can still cancel and change my 3700x to a 3800x if somebody can help change my mind!
     
  15. CAT-THE-FIFTH

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    Asus reviews might be off,as they are mucking around with the power management - how could AMD not have noticed this??
     
  16. Eatchipz

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  17. Kashinoda

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    Ballistix Sport LT 32GB 3200CL16 - £150
    B450M Mortar - £80
    3700X - £320

    £550

    Once I've sold my current gear that's a £350 upgrade, happy with that.
     
  18. jolliman86

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    Is the ASRock X570 Taichi really that good of a board? People seem to be snapping them up at the lower price elsewhere. Is it just for the extra value, or is it that good?
     
  19. nitram100

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    In two minds what to do. I have my kit here, tomahawk b450, ram etc but thinking, for purely gaming, which is what I was doing this upgrade for..would the 9900k be a better investment?
     
  20. nhornby51743

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    I stand corrected......said the man in the orthopaedic shoes.