I thought it was well known that Intels 10 and 7nm process designs were quite different beasts not with the latter not relying intrinsicly on the prior. If they were, the issues surrounding 10 would have pushed 7 back to the mid 2020's rather than still being on target for 2021. (OK very early roadmaps had 7nm in 2020, but a slip of a year is nothing compared to what we have seen with 10).
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Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread
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I thought it was well known that Intels 10 and 7nm process designs were quite different beasts not with the latter not relying intrinsicly on the prior. If they were, the issues surrounding 10 would have pushed 7 back to the mid 2020's rather than still being on target for 2021. (OK very early roadmaps had 7nm in 2020, but a slip of a year is nothing compared to what we have seen with 10).
At some point they're going to have to fix their nomenclature or we'll be at -12nm in no time
Intel ships 10-core Comet Lake gaming CPUs for qualification ahead of launch
https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/comet-lake-s-cpu-development-kits
Intel may have a 6-core Comet Lake S CPU to challenge AMD in desktops
https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-may-have-a-6-core-comet-lake-s-cpu-to-challenge-amd-in-desktops
Intel’s 10th-gen Core i3 CPUs may be supercharged with hyper-threading to battle AMD
https://www.techradar.com/news/inte...percharged-with-hyper-threading-to-battle-amd
I am wondering where are the engineering samples to show some performance results.
I bet the 10-core SKUs will be faster than the 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X, if the i9-9900KS has already achieved performance parity with the latter across the average seen in multiple apps.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/comet-lake-s-cpu-development-kits
Intel may have a 6-core Comet Lake S CPU to challenge AMD in desktops
https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-may-have-a-6-core-comet-lake-s-cpu-to-challenge-amd-in-desktops
Intel’s 10th-gen Core i3 CPUs may be supercharged with hyper-threading to battle AMD
https://www.techradar.com/news/inte...percharged-with-hyper-threading-to-battle-amd
I am wondering where are the engineering samples to show some performance results.
I bet the 10-core SKUs will be faster than the 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X, if the i9-9900KS has already achieved performance parity with the latter across the average seen in multiple apps.
i9-9900KS and Ryzen 9 3900X are trading blows across the range of applications. If the 10-core SKUs are available and cheaper than the overpriced and mostly out of stock Ryzen 9 3900X, the intel CPUs will win the game/battle.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-9900ks/7.html
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Get the web browsing graphs out. LOL
In that review, which is recent, the memory for both systems is 3200Mhz. Whilst the review does show what the OC'd 9900KS differences are. I wonder what the differences would be with higher RAM speeds. MOst Zen2 can take a 3200Mhz kit to 3600Mhz.
Reviewers need to include in these graphs when comparing OC'd test runs, whole system OC's that benefit which ever system best, THEN put these results up.
9900KS is a beast of a CPU, if you have a 2080ti, are a pro gamer @1080p with a high hz monitor then it's a no brainer. If you like higher resolution or have lesser than a 2080ti then there is little difference between Intel and AMD currently.
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Honestly, the marketing race is on: the first to 0nm and the first to pico-metresAt some point they're going to have to fix their nomenclature or we'll be at -12nm in no time
10 Core at 5Ghz going to be quite brutal to cool, how much will they charge for it ?
Those benchmarks are clearly paid by Intel and meaningless - web browsing and MS word no point buying a 3900X if it takes 10ms longer in Word or 10ms to open a web page good grief
Those benchmarks are clearly paid by Intel and meaningless - web browsing and MS word no point buying a 3900X if it takes 10ms longer in Word or 10ms to open a web page good grief
I have a notebook with a 2-core/4-thread i3-5005U and to be honest it is more responsive system than my 4-core/8-thread Ryzen 5 2500U. Faster updates installation, faster Windows loading to desktop, etc... Faster shut down.
That means Microsoft optimises for intel CPUs while they don't so much for AMD systems.
Checks OCUK - in stock
Checks ***** in stock
Check ****** in stock
Price for Intels 12 core £900 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga2066-processor-retail-cp-63l-in.html
Seriously dude, Get a grip .
These are only 3 firms out of 30. Some people may not want to buy from them, especially at that pricing.
I don't understand your logic. Any apps that perform better with an i9-9900K(S) than an R9 3900X obviously don't use more than 16 threads (probably much less). So why would a 10 core equivalent be faster? Unless it's clocked higher, it won't be.
It will be faster, as I said "across the average seen in multiple apps".
show me a time when intel have dropped there prices when they have a commanding lead? I’m not saying that intel 10 core won’t beat a ryzen 9. I honestly think a 10 core intel cpu will be compatible with the 3900x across all fronts. But can intel get a 5ghz 10 core to constantly hit 5ghz on a few cores never mind across all cores? I think it’s gonna be one very toasty cpu. A real pain to tame at 5ghz+ can’t exactly call a 8700k and 9900k easy to cool at 5ghz plus and adding more cores is gonna make it worse.
but if the intel 10 core cpu is matching a 3900x u really think that they will sell less the. 599.99 dollars like the 9900ks? You think that intel will have enough stock at launch? So the prices don’t sky rocket also? Intel keep saying there still having sully issues with 9000 series but that will be perfect for 10 series?
cpu prices are here to stay at current levels if amd and intel keep trading blows like they have neither one will majorly undercut the other if a i9 matches ryzen 9 the price will stay £500 and upwards same for ryzen 7 and ryzen 5 vs intel version the price won’t change much.
every company is out to make money pure and simple if they have the better product they charge what they think will sell if a company can match said product they will either be similar price or charge more in intels case.
if the roumors are true intel will be giving everyone hyperthreading across there whole range there already giving i5 owners a big gift
i7 will get it back also.
I see Tech Power Up are using Intel's "Real World Performance" bull crap to review CPU's now.....
A 10 core 9900K will not beat a 12 core Ryzen in real world use cases.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-9900ks/5.html
is it really surprising we’re intel says to go everyone follows
but it is surprising to see how much of there benchmark stuff has changed from amd 3900x in July and the 9900ks in nov So far its just TPU ^^^^
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Cinebench R20.
The fastest 9900K scores 5784 At 5.45Ghz, add 25% cores to that you get 7230. The slowest 3900X scores 7151. The 3950X will score around 10.5K.
So even the fastest 5.45Ghz overclocked 9900K with calculated for the two added cores can only hope to beat (at 5.45Ghz) the slowest 3900X by about 1%, the 3950X will match a 4.7Ghz 7980XE, the 10 Core Cometlake is DOA.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/the-official-ocuk-cinebench-r20-benchmark-thread.18849380/
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Cinebench R20.
The fastest 9900K scores 5784 At 5.45Ghz, add 25% cores to that you get 7230. The slowest 3900X scores 7151. The 3950X will score around 10.5K.
So even the fastest 5.45Ghz overclocked 9900K with calculated for the two added cores can only hope to beat (at 5.45Ghz) the slowest 3900X by about 1%, the 3950X will match a 4.7Ghz 7980XE, the 10 Core Cometlake is DOA.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/the-official-ocuk-cinebench-r20-benchmark-thread.18849380/
Not to mention the 14nm horse is so beaten and dead it's now a fossil.
Well that's perfect then! Intel can use the remains to fuel their next coal-powered 14nm iteration.