I think this is the first time I've ever spoken to you? I've just noticed today that you are in threads that dowie is in, attacking him rather than what he says, which I found a bit weird and obsessive *shrug*.
US kills Iran's General Soleimani
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Not sure why IFF is needed,it's a passenger plane that will be sending out the usual signals that commercial aircraft spew out to help navigation through other countries airspace.
If they had the ability to render their electronic devices in the radar, tracking and identification that well from some distance ,well it's pretty much open season and they could just send a b-52 over their airspace unmolested.
Iran screwed up
If they had the ability to render their electronic devices in the radar, tracking and identification that well from some distance ,well it's pretty much open season and they could just send a b-52 over their airspace unmolested.
Iran screwed up
Fair enough; I'm not claiming to be someone who knows anything about these sorts of things.
Just wondered if it was possible (at all).
It probably is possible to jam it all but would have to send specialized aircraft to jam electronics a lot closer to the sites.
Not sure if Israel sent f-35's over Iran or might have been Syria undetected ,they have the ability to scramble electronics bit not sure to what degree however with regards to offensive or defensively.
I've only recently responded to dowie in two threads that I can think of. Aren't you getting a bit carried away?
Given where and when it happened statistically it was never going to be anything else
America did exactly that in 1988 when they shot down an Iranian commercial jet killing 290 people including 66 children! They claimed they thought it was a fighter jet!!
Quite frankly I gave them more credit than being quite that dumb.
Was it dumb though? They basically got a free hit at a passenger jet, Trump doesn't give a ****.
Realistically it might cause issue with more timid countries sending airlines to Tehran though, which in Iran's sanctioned state is perhaps not the best. We'll never really know how the Iranian leadership feels about it though, maybe they've already executed the operators.
Might be good news for Zaghari-Ratcliffe though, publicly the UK government obviously 'cares' for all of it's citizens in other countries, but privately they can say to Iran 'That you've just killed three Britons (accident or not), so would you kindly release this mother to her family, please'. Hopefully Iran bites.
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I think the Iranians are capable of some *****-up stuff, including shooting down a passenger jet intentionally...but I would expect it to serve some sort of purpose for them, and I don't see that here.
My guess is that they were on the highest possible alert after launching missiles at us and they flinched.
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So how do you go from targeting stuff on the ground to accidentally shooting a plane down that's 20000+ feet in the air?
Equivalent of tabloid type news outlets in places like Lebanon and Egypt were the first sources I saw for those claims.
Different units and probably incorrect information due to "fog of war" or someone panicking in the intensity of the situation or something like that.
It is possible Iranians were expecting counter-battery fire and running their AA "hot" so to speak to try and counter incoming cruise missiles and under a hair trigger type situation it ended tragically.
Assuming it was shot down this is why NOTAMs need to be issued far more quickly and pre-cautiously in these situations... sadly it seems to take the first commercial aircraft to go down over a military "hot spot" before bureaucracy catches up.
Doubt Iran and Ukraine have the monopoly on stupid people, plenty of times in history where we've made mistakes, it was a high-tension situation after all, thinking time is limited.
They didn't accidentally take down an airliner or let off old missiles in random directions though.
If they're looking to screw infrastructure an airport is the perfect target.