IMO I would be surprised if more than 2% of people considering buying Ampere on day 1 have the same mindset as you. The other 98% were either never interested or have unreasonable (for lack of a better word) expectiation from AMDs.There are plenty of people, like me, who will wait and see if AMD bring anything to the table.At the moment I am leaning towards a 3080 but if AMD can match that performance with more VRAM(though I think the 3080 will be fine for me) then I will go AMD.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Is matching 3080 with more VRAM a reasonable expectation of AMD?
Its been years and apart from a short run of the Radon VII, they still haven't got a GPU which surpasses the 1080ti.
Yes i would consider it reasonable.
Fair enough.. what makes you think that?
I think AMD will do good to just about surpass the 3070/2080ti given how much they're playing catchup with current benchmarks of their available cards.
This VRAM card is one they HAVE to play because they're simply behind Nvidia in extra features and performance. Its now their unique selling point.
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Guess I just need to learn a little patience. Am slowly getting excited for RDNA2 though, just craving more detail!
Because your expecting them to match them in performance (not exceed them) for a given price point. Having more VRAM is not really an engineering challenge IMO.
It is true that AMD has been AWOL from the high end, but if AMD was serious about having a full line up with RDNA 2. i don't think expecting them to match Nvidia is unreasonable.
When i was saying unreasonable it is more a reference to people who want AMD to produce a generational leap over Nvidia for a given price point. For a lot of buyers there is no point waiting for AMD if they are only going to match Nvidia in performance and i do see their point.
Put 16gb on it for £500 it's a winner.
Not a chance in hell.
If they did then AMD would out there now crushing Nvidia sales with there new cards.
I do wonder when AMD will release more information. Some people simply won't wait 
We all want AMD to be competitive because competition = improvements for everyone. But I do sometimes think when it comes to GPUs, they're very tardy and late, when they really don't have to be.
We all want AMD to be competitive because competition = improvements for everyone. But I do sometimes think when it comes to GPUs, they're very tardy and late, when they really don't have to be.
Thats my logic too. I'm pretty much sure they will be inferior cards to the 3080 speed wise with some huge VRAM allocation to try and trick people into thinking its more future proofed (when in reality, its still gimped by the lack of speed/performance).
I hope I'm wrong. I hope they release a 3080 equivalent card with VRAM and with some form of DLSS equivalent tech for the RTX games which need it... but I just don't see it happening.
Just how NVIDIA shills eat up whatever NVIDIA sells them, I think AMD fanboys will do the same and convince themselves that VRAM = Graphical fidelity and performance which just isn't true.
The benches will show which card and manufacturer is superior. Anything past that is speculation.
Surely if the xbox gpu can get close to a 2080ti on 130w it's not going to be that difficult to at least get near a 3080 with a 300w desktop gpu.
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I’d prefer others beta test amd’s version of RTX and DLSS before I jump in. As a heavy VR user, nvidia is simply a safe bet and the biggest game coming out this year, CP, it’s going to be loaded up with nvidia features.
RDNA2 feature wise needs to step up a decent amount.
RDNA2 feature wise needs to step up a decent amount.
Star Citizen.
Very much apples to oranges though. We're guessing at best how the design translates to performance on the console alone, then you have to translate that across to a graphics card implementation.
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Not fussed with RTX or DLSS stuff that much, just want double my 1080 performance.
Elaborate please?
i do love how everybody instantly dismissing RDNA 2 before it's even had a murmor just completely ignore the X Box Series X exists. "AMD will never catch Nvidia, AMD can't even beat a 1080 Ti" and yet an undervolted, underclocked APU has been shown to do exactly that.
And what is this superior software stack Nvidia has people keep banging on about?
And what is this superior software stack Nvidia has people keep banging on about?
What res?
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The 2080 is not as strong as the 2080Ti, nowhere near. If the console 52cu can beat these then the very minimum will be more fps you had and you wont want to scrimp on the vram due to future games.
According to Nvidia's page...
So that's RDNA 2 covered with all the ray tracing and DLSS can be switched out for FidelityFX (or just use driver-level Radeon Image Sharpening).
Not sure what other Nvidia-specific features it's being loaded up with.
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