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You're not comprehending what I'm saying correctly.
You'd rather see bias where I have none.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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You're not comprehending what I'm saying correctly.
You'd rather see bias where I have none.
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You said it has to be 10% faster than the 3080 or it's a flop. What am I missing in that statement?
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Where did I say that?
Where did I unequivocally say that AMD's card will be a flop if it's not 10% faster than the 3080?
in what regard, out right performance, lowest prices, power, units shipping (including consoles here) that can mean a number of things.
for now all we know is we will find out SOME info come the 28th of october, what info that is who knows, what it should be is product stack, prices, performance and release date. for all we know its more talk about how big navi is coming soon but is looking really special.
until it happens now we just have to wait.
It's never caused me an issue in any game that I play and for rendering or specific workload open cl compute its a monster where nothing in the consumer space can really touch it. It's the best general purpose open cl gpu money can buy right now unless you are working with cuda specific loads. To demonstrate some of what it can do here are a few graphs shamelessly stolen from the internet:
It's also a single precision FFT monster, again none of this directly translates to it's gaming performance but as I said it's an Instinct MI50 core so there are things where it really shines.
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This in response to them doing the same as Nvidia in their announcement. So if they do the same they have to be faster or it's a fail.
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Comprehension failure on your behalf.
Saying the event would be a failure if it mimicked Nvidia's event is not me saying the card is a flop.
The event to me would be a success if such event showcased the Big Navi as being 10% faster.
That would mean there's even more time to await before full details are known, so you'd just buy the Ampere cards, assuming one hadn't already.
It's pretty much pure logic.
I think the price is more important, say AMD offer 10% less performance than a 3080 but for 25% less money then how can that be considered a failure?
You say buy the already available ampere card but that is assuming you can actually get hold of one.
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I am not sure if the announcement of the date has intensified the hype train,or it derailed it at the depot before it got on the tracks!! 
In the GPU space? Those words don't belong together
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I don't see how it's pure logic. I have no expectation but if they offer the same performance at better price why would it be a flop? If they offer the exact same thing as Nvidia why is it a flop?
We just have to wait and see, it's not like 7 weeks is a long time or any groundbreaking games are coming out in that time.
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A Big Navi at 10% slower than a 3080, but 25% cheaper I could get behind.
I've not once suggested the card itself to be a failure albeit.
However, I'm not sure you could indicate it being a particularly successful event if you're waiting 6 weeks to showcase off your weaker GPU's from a PR POV.
Damn, taking so long. Not buying this gen probably except the ps5 but still, excited to see benches. Also raytracing benches in already released games.
My guess is, close to 3080 perf in rasterization (maybe better) but 2080 level performance in raytracing, with a 10% lower price than 3080.
My guess is, close to 3080 perf in rasterization (maybe better) but 2080 level performance in raytracing, with a 10% lower price than 3080.
You know who ATI are/where right? You know AMD risked the entire company on the ATi acquisition? Amd are not just a cpu company, not by a long shot. The ATi risk was a calculated future bet to buy the IP required to make "zen" what it is today, along with global foundries acquisition of IBM's microelectronics division (which just so happens to be where Lisa Su made significant contributions to processor design) some stars aligned an zen is now a thing. Anyway if you think that they are a just a "cpu" company then you are way off. What would be more apt would be calling them something like a custom/soc silicon company or a micro electronics company.
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Come on guys. We’re getting both Zen 3 and Big Navi soon. We have a date to aim at now, it’s great news
I must admit that it’s longer than I hoped for, but new gpus and cpus are on the horizon.
We know the CPU’s will be amazing, and I have a strong suspicion they’re going to deliver with Big Navi too. It just feels right this time
I must admit that it’s longer than I hoped for, but new gpus and cpus are on the horizon.
We know the CPU’s will be amazing, and I have a strong suspicion they’re going to deliver with Big Navi too. It just feels right this time
That's some weird logic you got going on there. Why are you even in this thread? Clearly there is nothing AMD can ever do that will be acceptable in your mind.
You and all the rest of Jensen shill bots in this thread should just go and buy your 3080 with 10gb(snigger) of vram. Knowing nvidias track record though it'll just be replaced in a few months with a new one with appropriate vram capacity for its targetted resolution, so good luck with that.
Anyone who is having a mad cry about AMD being late or whatever other nonsense, go and buy a 3080. AMD does not give two ***** about you, i promise. They are about to have the most successful CPU of many many years, they will make hundreds of millions on console sales, their GPUs are about to give all NVIDIA morons buyers remorse. If you can't wait an extra fee weeks too No! bad. Go back to the ampere thread
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Then cards nearly a month after that probably with AiB's next year.
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Well, it keeps this thread going
Humbug, you've been revving yourself up in anticipation. You need to go into a darkened room, wind down for bit and come out in few weeks, refreshed and raring to go again.....for another announcement
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Performance parity, at a later date (With more awaiting for full details, due to the stipulation you made) for a cheaper price wouldn't be a total flop of an event, the measure of success would be by the price differential I guess. However it's certainly not going to have the same impact as being better than your competitor is.
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