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I wanted a Vega but couldn't get it so it was paper. Rtx might be paper too but at least Nvidia just have one pot to **** in rather than 6 like amd.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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I wanted a Vega but couldn't get it so it was paper. Rtx might be paper too but at least Nvidia just have one pot to **** in rather than 6 like amd.
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"A new era in leadership performance" is just marketing spiel, and I don't understand why so many of you are getting worked up about it, one way or the other. Every corporation has something similar on their homepage, irrespective of where they actually stand.
Oh right, so what defines a paper launch is if YOU can get your hands on one or not. Good to know. And i suppose all the people that got theirs in the post the day after launch don't count? And i think you're overlooking the fact miners also played a factor in availability, be it FE or RX miners were snaffling the supply left and right so it's not surprising they were hard to come by. That doesn't make a launch "paper" by any means.
I personally feel it shouldn't be too difficult to get a AMD card. The node process will yield much higher production numbers, and if they have any sense, they will use this extra time to amass a stockpile of cards.
If it's a preorder card, you have a good chance of obtaining it, but if it's only released on the specific day, a little bit of F5'ing should get you one. We also have to remember that AMD isn't nearly as popular as NVIDIA in the GPU space, so that makes it easier.
I don't think stock for Big Navi will be as limited as some suggest. Zen 3 though? Ha, that may well be very different.
If it's a preorder card, you have a good chance of obtaining it, but if it's only released on the specific day, a little bit of F5'ing should get you one. We also have to remember that AMD isn't nearly as popular as NVIDIA in the GPU space, so that makes it easier.
I don't think stock for Big Navi will be as limited as some suggest. Zen 3 though? Ha, that may well be very different.
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Read other ones too . Radeon VII and 5700xt track record is shocking. That's not a source that's a fact.
An all AMD PC does sound quite cool.
AMD would smart to try and integrate their CPU tech with their GPU tech for some more added benefits of pairing both of them.
I'll likely buy an RTX 3080 for my 8086k and if AMD bring the goods to the table, I'll make a whole new AMD-only rig... not sure what for..
AMD would smart to try and integrate their CPU tech with their GPU tech for some more added benefits of pairing both of them.
I'll likely buy an RTX 3080 for my 8086k and if AMD bring the goods to the table, I'll make a whole new AMD-only rig... not sure what for..
Its a bold claim coming from an AMD that hasn't overhyped anything since Raja left.
Radeon vii was always going to be limited availability as it was a stop gap product derived from a pro product. 5700xt was thin on the ground for a time, a lot of people held off for third party cards as they didn't want to deal with a blower fan. Wasn't that hard to get a blower version shortly after launch.
I think AMD are going to dethrone Intel for fastest gaming cpu and take out the 3080. Good vibes.
I love NV but I actually really hope they do
An AMD based system would completely destroy an Intel one for multi-threaded workloads (video editing, encoding etc) and I only expect that gap to widen with Zen 3
Intel still wins for gaming, just. But I wouldn't expect that to continue if AMD reduce the latency etc.
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What exactly are they claiming then? Top performance at 1440P? Or at 4K? In rasterisation? Ray-tracing?
It's a nebulous piece of marketing bumpf that every company uses. Don't read any more into it than that.
Rumours is its a 16GB Navi 22, with performance almost on par with 3080. He says AIBs have it in testing. This likely to be much cheaper than 3080 and would make whatever the true "big" navi Navi 21 will be very very interesting.
The guy did allot of Nvidia leaks and pics similar before the event.
https://t.bilibili.com/h5/dynamic/detail/90644333?tab=1&type=2
The guy did allot of Nvidia leaks and pics similar before the event.
https://t.bilibili.com/h5/dynamic/detail/90644333?tab=1&type=2
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I'm glad they've broken the silence. I'm looking to upgrade my CPU as well as GPU this year so I think I might resist the pull of the Nvidia 3000 series and see what AMD have to offer us.
Only problem is, availability is looking like November at the earliest, but I've waited 3 years to upgrade my GPU so what's another 3 months.
Only problem is, availability is looking like November at the earliest, but I've waited 3 years to upgrade my GPU so what's another 3 months.
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That's the risk of selling up to reduce the losses, mate... Sometimes that extra couple of quid is worth it to keep gaming while you make the mind up.
Rumours is its a 16GB Navi 22, with performance almost on par with 3080. He says AIBs have it in testing. This likely to be much cheaper than 3080 and would make whatever the true "big" navi Navi 21 will be.
The guy did allot of Nvidia leaks and pics similar before the event.
https://t.bilibili.com/h5/dynamic/detail/90644333?tab=1&type=2
Would not bet on it being cheaper - though not having the extra die space for some stuff might help them a bit - 7nm tends to be twice as expensive to implement a design on and 30-300% more expensive to produce an equivalent product (silicon wise - not the entire BoM and other costs) than a 8/10nm node - a good part of the reason nVidia went with what they did.
EDIT: That is also likely 16Gbps GDDR6 modules rather than 16 GB of VRAM.
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Rumours is its a 16GB Navi 22, with performance almost on par with 3080. He says AIBs have it in testing. This likely to be much cheaper than 3080 and would make whatever the true "big" navi Navi 21 will be very very interesting.
The guy did allot of Nvidia leaks and pics similar before the event.
https://t.bilibili.com/h5/dynamic/detail/90644333?tab=1&type=2
Does look like an engineering card, some of the jumpers on the back are similar to what was on the vega ES in this video with the annoying little twonk.
Not sure wtf is going on with the cooling, looks like a cpu cooler that's been macgyvered to it somehow.
This is an issue I have also. I want to sell my 5700xt while it's worth something, but don't want to wait 2+ months with no GPU. Money's tighter now and I really could do with the funds for a new GPU. Possibly even the Navi 21 if it's close to the 3090, at £1000 ish.
I don't believe in hanging on to GPU's at all. Sell it before it becomes worthless etc, but it's difficult when there's so much uncertainty as to when you will be able to obtain a new one etc
Rumours is its a 16GB Navi 22, with performance almost on par with 3080. He says AIBs have it in testing. This likely to be much cheaper than 3080 and would make whatever the true "big" navi Navi 21 will be very very interesting.
The guy did allot of Nvidia leaks and pics similar before the event.
https://t.bilibili.com/h5/dynamic/detail/90644333?tab=1&type=2
That thing looks a long way from mass production though. It makes me think it will be a while before we get these on shelves.
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