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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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Nablaoperator said:
Folks would be happy to buy this card if it exists
(entire Nvidia line would convert) but rumors and AMDs current position contradict it's existence..
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I know, i made the point that AMD can make 4 or 6 8 core CPU's for wafer space of a GPU like this, that's far more profitable and AMD don't have infinite wafer supply.
 
Robert896r1 said:
Wish we could place


lol! I was waiting for imagination to creep upto beating the 3090.
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Then you misunderstand TF, Compute Thought put does not = Gaming performance, many people use that to gauge Gaming performance but it does not equate.

I don't know how they will compare....
 
humbug said:
I know, i made the point that AMD can make 4 or 6 8 core CPU's for wafer space of a GPU like this, that's far more profitable and AMD don't have infinite wafer supply.
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TDPs can become a hard constraint even with that approach..it might become difficult converting 500W TDPs to manageable voltages for consumer grade PSUs..

However, I am ok if a large chip is under clocked to reduce TDPs. I anyhow prefer playing at half vsync
 
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I know, i said that myself ^^^

Nablaoperator said:
TDPs can become a hard constraint even with that approach..it might become difficult converting 500W TDPs to manageable voltages for consumer grade PSUs..

However, I am ok if a large chip is under locked to reduce TDPs. I anyhow prefer playing at half vsync
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Years ago GPU's would be set more in a "Goldy Locks Zone" larger GPU's lower clocked so what you got as the end consumer was GPU's that would overclock quite well, i remember people running 40% daily overclocks on their HD 7950's.

These days GPU's are smaller and pushed near the limits out of the box. Its sad.
 
humbug said:
I know, i said that myself ^^^



Years ago GPU's would be set more in a "Goldy Locks Zone" larger GPU's lower clocked so what you got as the end consumer was GPU's that would overclock quite well, i remember people running 40% daily overclocks on their HD 7950's.

These days GPU's are smaller and pushed near the limits out of the box. Its sad.
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Like cpu amd hardware out of the box runs it so well without a need to oc anymore.
so we are running towards the cards and cpu and such just runs default so well.
I suspect skynet may have a say in this at some point
I like the smartness of hardware usage based on loads.
 
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The general behavior I'm seeing is people scrambling to get hold of one, asking if their PSU is able to cope and then whining about how ugly the power adaptor cable looks. Certainly seems that way @SpudMaster :p
 
SpudMaster said:
Gotta hand it to Nvidia though, they rape people price wise with 20xx series and suddenly £650 cards become a bargain....:p:rolleyes:
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I've been saying for months now 3000 series will be lightly cheaper and people will think they are getting a bargain, completely forgetting the massive hike in price the previous generation.
Its pretty amusing/sad.
 
markoboyo11 said:
I've been saying for months now 3000 series will be lightly cheaper and people will think they are getting a bargain, completely forgetting the massive hike in price the previous generation.
Its pretty amusing/sad.
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Huh? My 1080ti was £699? The founders 3080 will cost me £649 thus saving me £50.

I am getting value for money lol.
 
SpudMaster said:
Gotta hand it to Nvidia though, they rape people price wise with 20xx series and suddenly £650 cards become a bargain....:p:rolleyes:
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Same as the game industry's been doing with predatory microtransactions... EA: 2 steps forward - consumer: outrage - EA: 1 step back - Consumers: "yay they listened" - EA: "mwahaha"
 
markoboyo11 said:
I've been saying for months now 3000 series will be lightly cheaper and people will think they are getting a bargain, completely forgetting the massive hike in price the previous generation.
Its pretty amusing/sad.
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Both $500 and $700 are faster than they have ever been with this generation, and by a meaningful margin. I don't see the problem other than the fact that they have yet to release the GPU's for the lower price points.

Whatever price point you think is "cheap", they will probably offer you a nice boost in performance over what was available before. From what we have seen so far, it looks like Nvidia is back on track with price/performance.
 
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