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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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Twinz said:
I'm not as likely to buy AMD's product if I just bought their competitor's product. They must have learned that at marketing school too?

Right now, it looks like Nvidia has given me almost exactly what I asked for at the price I wanted and AMD has not given me a reason to wait.
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Then what are you fussing over? :P
 
Howling said:
Then what are you fussing over? :p
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I'll wait if AMD can deliver something better and I don't have to wait till next year. But I'm not waiting because there are *rumors* that AMD (or Nvidia for that matter) might make a better offer...*someday*....*maybe*.
 
Twinz said:
I'll wait if AMD can deliver something better and I don't have to wait till next year. But I'm not waiting because there are *rumors* that AMD (or Nvidia for that matter) might make a better offer...*someday*....*maybe*.
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Unless you need a GPU to generate income I don't see any downside to waiting to see everyone's cards on the table. Then again the FOMO is real in this hobby, day one epeen and all that :D
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
I must admit I am quite leniant with my judgements, but then I also don't hold much weight on certain things that are brought up in these videos, because i have seen how product specifications change (different industry) throughout development. I've seen leaked information that was correct at the time of someone writing the article, change as the development progressed.

In general because of what i know about product development and how it changes, I am mainly looking at the stuff that is harder to change or cancel during development. Things relating the architecture of the GPU. If that stuff is right or in the general ball park then i simply view the other stuff as the development histroy of the card. Things that the company tried to do but ultimately couldn't achieve for reasons we don't know.

As an example for some of the things you've listed(such as 7nm and 2.2GHz), I would mainly look at is this is was a chip or a set of chips that Nvidia had and were testing at the time before ultimately deciding not to proceed, for a reason we don't know.
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True - where and what nm they were going to be produced on for instance they did several evaluations which someone involved with one might not be aware of others and assume that is where the cores would be made, etc. but there was so much specific information which was dead wrong.
 
Twinz said:
I'm not as likely to buy AMD's product if I just bought their competitor's product. They must have learned that at marketing school too?

Right now, it looks like Nvidia has given me almost exactly what I asked for at the price I wanted and AMD has not given me a reason to wait.
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You have not seen AMD's as your being impatient. They cannot fast forward a release just for a handful of enthusiasts. Also, they cant win - rush it - get slated. Take too long - get slated. :rolleyes:
 
Troezar said:
Unless you need a GPU to generate income I don't see any downside to waiting to see everyone's cards on the table. Then again the FOMO is real in this hobby, day one epeen and all that :D
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I have wanted a new GPU since I upgraded to a Reverb in May. FOMO is part of it, but plain-old impatience is most of it. I waited this long on the principal of not "giving in" to what Nvidia did with Turing. I normally don't upgrade every generation anyway, but I would have taken the "meh" performance increase of the 2080Ti had they priced it like my 1080Ti. I felt like $1200 was an insult for the performance it offered, and waited.

My impatience will no doubt cost me something...at some point...in this GPU cycle. But the performance they appear to be offering is worth $700 to me...today.
 
Th0nt said:
You have not seen AMD's as your being impatient. They cannot fast forward a release just for a handful of enthusiasts. Also, they cant win - rush it - get slated. Take too long - get slated. :rolleyes:
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I. Don't. Need. A. Release.

I need benchmarks and price points. If they don't have decent idea of price and performance *now*, it will be longer than I care to wait before they get to where they have hardware on the shelf for purchase.
 
JediFragger said:
Tbf there are whispers that clockspeeds are still yet to be finalised so I doubt they'd want to leak anything regarding performance til they are set in stone.
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Under promise. Over deliver.

They can just give us benchmarks at clocks they are confident in now. No one will complain if they deliver more performance at launch.
 
Twinz said:
I have wanted a new GPU since I upgraded to a Reverb in May. FOMO is part of it, but plain-old impatience is most of it. I waited this long on the principal of not "giving in" to what Nvidia did with Turing. I normally don't upgrade every generation anyway, but I would have taken the "meh" performance increase of the 2080Ti had they priced it like my 1080Ti. I felt like $1200 was an insult for the performance it offered, and waited.

My impatience will no doubt cost me something...at some point...in this GPU cycle. But the performance they appear to be offering is worth $700 to me...today.
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Fair enough, after all it's your money, so long as you enjoy it and feel you got good value that's all that matters.
 
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