Yes over the years the mark up was to low for Amd per item it help the share price if I understand it right as people like a big mark up on each item sold but could be wrong, until Zen, Amd had low % marks up on their items where Intel and Nvidia had very High mark ups.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Yes over the years the mark up was to low for Amd per item it help the share price if I understand it right as people like a big mark up on each item sold but could be wrong, until Zen, Amd had low % marks up on their items where Intel and Nvidia had very High mark ups.
and thats the rub, will the 6000 drivers work well enough straight out of the gate, will the build quality be there also, both issues that again cropped up with the 5000's.
feature set, ray tracing while not a huge driver will be more and more important and for games like cyberpunk could make a big graphical difference, and i could as until its released we just dont know how much extra it adds.
some akin to dlss is also something that will be a factor for people pushing higher res gaming.
so its not just about the price/performance its the whole bundle which amd have yet to get right from the get go for a long time now.
for amd to knock it out of the park they need to get a LOT of things right from day one, if they do and the performance is there they are on to a winner for sure. and yes i really hope they do manage it as having two similar performing gpu brands can only help drive competition. and who knows if intel dont give up again like last time in a couple of years we may have a third lower tier brand starting to nibble at their entry level cards.
Right the cooler on my 5700XT is sub par, its really cheap junk to be honest.
You don't tend to get that with Nvidia, probably because Nvidia force a minimum standard on AIB's where as AMD perhaps take a more liberal approach and let AIB's make up their own rules.
With that you will always get some who will try to get away with coolers you might have found on budget mid range GPU's in 2012, which is what this thing on my card is.
i had a ati (yes them!) xe800 xt and even though at the time that was a top end card and from asus i had to remove the cooler and refit it as half of the memory wasnt even touching, you could see light through ffs. i REALLY do hope they get a handle on this NOW!
Like ASUS and they're VRM issues on all AMD cards but not on Nvidia. If the price is too similar, I'll be grabbing Nvida purely for DLSS.
Yes well they did use Nvidia coolers for Amd cards.
AMD are literally eating Intel's lunch in the DIY space, its a complete flip, AMD are now selling 80% to Intel's 20%.
AMD achieved this because 'with Zen 2' <take note of that before replying to this... AMD got the Motherboards right, they got the BIOS and Software right, the performance is there.
In games AMD still lag a little behind Intel, with Zen 2, but it doesn't matter, The motherboards are good quality, the platform is reliable, the software stack, like Ryzen Master is really good, the CPU's are not a great deal cheaper, a 10600K costs £260, a Ryzen 3600 is £220, the Ryzen 3600 outsells the 10600K massively despite it being slower in gaming.
Because people trust the Ryzen brand, they even like it to the point where "Ryzen" has started almost a cult following, rather cleverly marketed people never say "AMD CPU's" they say "Ryzen CPU's" oh yes i want one of those....
What AMD are now doing to Intel in the DIY space was unthinkable just 2 years ago, the untouchable almost god like Intel are now firmly seen as second best by normies.
AMD could elevate the "Radeon" brand if they get everything right, Ryzen proves its possible.
AMD achieved this because 'with Zen 2' <take note of that before replying to this... AMD got the Motherboards right, they got the BIOS and Software right, the performance is there.
In games AMD still lag a little behind Intel, with Zen 2, but it doesn't matter, The motherboards are good quality, the platform is reliable, the software stack, like Ryzen Master is really good, the CPU's are not a great deal cheaper, a 10600K costs £260, a Ryzen 3600 is £220, the Ryzen 3600 outsells the 10600K massively despite it being slower in gaming.
Because people trust the Ryzen brand, they even like it to the point where "Ryzen" has started almost a cult following, rather cleverly marketed people never say "AMD CPU's" they say "Ryzen CPU's" oh yes i want one of those....
What AMD are now doing to Intel in the DIY space was unthinkable just 2 years ago, the untouchable almost god like Intel are now firmly seen as second best by normies.
AMD could elevate the "Radeon" brand if they get everything right, Ryzen proves its possible.
78% performance increase in one generation should be very easy yeah. Just child's play to make a jump so big that we've never seen anything like it in the last decade, easy, no stress.
£400 on a GPU that's slower than the new consoles?
Over the weekend I was quite surprised to see every Facebook, Instagram and Twitter post Intel have made about gaming and "inspiration" has been trolled hard with pro-Ryzen comments. Could it be the normies are catching up with the news and mindshare is finally dwindling in the consumer space?
Intel still outsells AMD almost 10 to 1 in the business market though, which is way bigger than the consumer market.
Check how many Ryzen solutions exist on Dell's website for example.
Yes. Everywhere i look its Ryzen Ryzen Ryzen Ryzen Ryzen Ryzen Ryzen Ryzen Ryzen..... Intel know their Mindshare in the DIY space has GONE and they are trying to break through all the Ryzen noise but are finding themselves in exactly the same situation AMD were in with Bulldozer, there is a vast Ryzen army that troll Intel everytime they look over the parapet.
This is also why i said its a complete reversal.
Delicious, isn't it
although not to the same extent, I've seen a few Intel posts about supercomputing and professional content creation also get hit with EPYC and Threadripper comments. Only the audio engineers are safe for now!Delicious, isn't it
It is, there was no shame in it when AMD were in the trenches with a hail of bullets flying over their heads. Its your turn Intel, suck it up and pull yourselves out of it, LIKE AMD DID.
Delicious, isn't it
dont worry seen enough posts on here claiming intel will be a force in discreet gpu's in 12 months, the wii (i know xii, but troll
) graphics have shown this!!!! not sure where they have shown it but the fanboys have seen it Base on last gen AMD were doing the 5700XT for 2060 price for 2070 performance. If they come with more RAM than the 3070 I imagine their 6700XT (or whatever they call it) would still undercut the 3070 but probably not by as much, maybe £50 less. The important question is performance. That'll guide the SKU prices. Obviously they're playing their cards very close to their chest which means RDNA2 is either a stinker or an utter beast. Lets hope it's the latter.
All I will say is Drivers Drivers Drivers, we will see how long they support the cards once a new generation comes out.dont worry seen enough posts on here claiming intel will be a force in discreet gpu's in 12 months, the wii (i know xii, but troll
Actually the 5700 xt is more a 2070s 2080 level, so for 2060 money you were getting a bargain.
Also I think AMD will have 12GB VRM for the 5700xt replacement.
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