AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[Nablaoperator]

Here, here. Large power draw, cards too big for cases, reports of crashing, overhyped, lack of stock, poor drivers..

Zotac Trinity and MSI Ventus have been a big mess too.

 

[Nutella33]

An unrelated question, can you force vsync from the Radeon control panel..last I remember it only worked with OpenGL games

OpenGL triple buffering? Global graphics - advanced then the triple buffer toggle at the bottom.

 

[Troezar]

Here, here. Large power draw, cards too big for cases, reports of crashing, overhyped, lack of stock, poor drivers..

Look at it this way, plenty of ammunition put by for the AMD launch

 

[humbug]

Ampere already has problems.

Memory running at 100c on those pretty reference cards.
AIB cards unstable because Ampere has 0 overclocking headroom and AIB's are still trying to clock them higher to differentiate themselves.
Very sensitive to the quality of your PSU and cables.

 

[Nablaoperator]

No just vsync. I was on a Vega crossfire setup 3 years ago and vsync option on control panel only worked for OpenGL games..

OpenGL triple buffering? Global graphics - advanced then the triple buffer toggle at the bottom.

 

[Nabeshogun]

Jury is out on him for me. He seems to do a LOT of AMD bashing, so when he tries not to shill intel/nvidia its hard to say he's independant as he should be roasting 3080 launch to oblivion if he has consistency and 'independant'.

This might have been covered as I get confused with everyone having set avatars and I think I saw someone mention this in a thread, but I can't see it in this one as I'm scrolling back through... but the most recent video about the 3090 (I just watched it now) is basically him every slide slagging off nVidia's marketing for claiming the 3090 can do 8K gaming as that's basically a lie and it should only be considered a workstation one.

 

[Nablaoperator]

Ampere already has problems.

Memory running at 100c on those pretty reference cards.
AIB cards unstable because Ampere has 0 overclocking headroom and AIB's are still trying to clock them higher to differentiate themselves.
Very sensitive to the quality of your PSU and cables.

Zotac board was too bad for the price.. they could have probably charged 10 per cent higher rather than making sheet like that

 

[humbug]

To be Fair Steve Burke was brutal to Nvidia about their marketing.

Zotac board was too bad for the price.. they could have probably charged 10 per cent higher rather than making sheet like that

I hear Nvidia wanted their high margins and basically left AIB's with little room to work with, Nvidia are charging a high price for the IP and setting a low MSRP.

 

[Dogeared]

If AMD beat the 3080 this is gonna be epic

They don't really need to beat it, they just need to be competitive on performance and price.

This needs to happen, Nvidia have demonstrated all the bad outcomes of having a monopoly.

 

[Besty]

Yeah, if the AMD card hits just under the 3080 perf. at launch with decent amount of stock available then its gonna be a home run because you know the card will only get quicker from there.

 

[3t3P]

you are familiar with the concept of manufacturing and that there is a finite limit on how much product you can get and if everyone demands it you can run out?

There are loads of people round the world with GPUs, NV just ran out. NV will fix driver issues in a timely manner which same can't be said for AMD.

So yeh despite issues I know what team i'd rather be on, the one that generally delivers a premium product experience.

 

[ubersonic]

Yeah, if the AMD card hits just under the 3080 perf. at launch with decent amount of stock available then its gonna be a home run because you know the card will only get quicker from there.

The issue though is that part of the RTX3080 demand is due to it being the top dog for mining right now, and if the 6900XT pulls a Vega and gaps everything else (which AMD cards have done in the past, not just Vega) then it will have the double impact of dropping RTX3080 demand and mooning 6900XT demand.

 

[Nablaoperator]

you are familiar with the concept of manufacturing and that there is a finite limit on how much product you can get and if everyone demands it you can run out?

There are loads of people round the world with GPUs, NV just ran out. NV will fix driver issues in a timely manner which same can't be said for AMD.

So yeh despite issues I know what team i'd rather be on, the one that generally delivers a premium product experience.

DLSS is a great concept. Nvidia's driver quality is much better.. but it's going to be a close contest this time, Nvidia's got nothing on the top shelf.. most rational consumers would like to sit back and make a decision after the Navi reveal, it's then a question of trade-off

 

[DDH]

The lack of real information doesn't mean it's a good thing - today Nvidia shouts we have the fastest graphics card on the planet and many thousand of gamers will follow and buy it, thus leaving the future sales of the Navi very doubtful.
No one will care because everyone had already got what they need.

Hahah, this guy. The entire dgpu market is made up of a couple of thousand people who all just happen to buy at the same time.


Even if that was the reality, I'd say 1/10 people wanting to buy a 3080 has been able to

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

He was deadly serious.

I now see why people say he should stick to watercooling.

I wonder if he is going to make good on his promise to turn down AMD sample cards. I remember he said something about it during the 5700XT pricing fiasco.

 

[Gerard]

Hahah, this guy. The entire dgpu market is made up of a couple of thousand people who all just happen to buy at the same time.


Even if that was the reality, I'd say 1/10 people wanting to buy a 3080 has been able to

He rarely makes any sense, just rambles incoherently about how he knows better than everyone and how amd should be able to fart out a gpu to his spec in 5 minutes.

 

[TNA]

To be Fair Steve Burke was brutal to Nvidia about their marketing.

Indeed. I still enjoy his videos

 

[DDH]

Indeed. I still enjoy his videos

I thought his pieces about AMD fortnite marketing, and ryzen being smoother were a bit clickbaity tbh. But today's video was a quality watch while he slammed **** out of nvidias 8k marketing

Jayz2cents on the other hand carries the torch for NVIDIA, no doubt about it

 

[TNA]

I thought his pieces about AMD fortnite marketing, and ryzen being smoother were a bit clickbaity tbh. But today's video was a quality watch while he slammed **** out of nvidias 8k marketing

Jayz2cents on the other hand carries the torch for NVIDIA, no doubt about it

Yeah I can’t stand Jay. I avoid his videos. I just stick with Tech Jesus and Hardware Unboxed mainly.

 

[Smffy]

Ampere already has problems.

Memory running at 100c on those pretty reference cards.
AIB cards unstable because Ampere has 0 overclocking headroom and AIB's are still trying to clock them higher to differentiate themselves.
Very sensitive to the quality of your PSU and cables.

100c haha! They’ve done me a solid not having any to sell I reckon...