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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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WTF, this guy deserves a YouTube reset. What an utter joke. Trashing AMD like this, I hope they prove this sausage wrong.

He's been crapping on them for some time now, I never noticed before but in the past couple of years its so blatant its cringe.
 
Seeing a lot of hate for Jay lately. I like him personally, and believe he's pretty unbiased.
I'm sure people take him far too seriously or take what he says the wrong way.


But why go to twitter and basically try and play defender for nvidia? They have had 2 half assed launches in 7 days, they rushed their product to market, yet all he can say is "but amd"?
 
If amd don't have supply issues then it'll be the first time in a very long time.
In fairness a lot of their supply issues in recent years have been due to miners buying them faster than the factory can produce them. Hopefully the 6900XT won't knock the RTX3080 off the mining throne, if it performs/costs a similar amount and gamers can actually buy them that will be good for AMD.
 
Seeing a lot of hate for Jay lately. I like him personally, and believe he's pretty unbiased.
I'm sure people take him far too seriously or take what he says the wrong way.

I don't watch rumour mill stuff generally. But, putting down AMD in any way bothers fan boys I guess? I don't think his channel is particularly serious, it's just entertainment and hype mostly.
 
Much as i'd love for proper competition again (i've never had a loyalty on either GPU or CPU in 30 years of owning PCs, just whatever looks the best fit for my wallet and needs at the time), something makes me wonder.

1. If the end of October launch is going to be a 'proper' launch, you'd assume the card is finalised and possibly even in production

2. Assuming 1 is correct, they'd have some in-house performance numbers by now and you'd think they'd be leaking those numbers like mad now if it was properly competitive or 'close enough' to encourage people not to drop cash on a 3080 order/pre-order? After all, every 3080/3090 sold is a potential AMD sale lost.

I suppose the other possibility is that its not the 3080/3090 space they're going after anyway, but possibly the 3070 is the competition? OK, that launches ahead of the AMD reveal as well although if supply is as bad as the two nVidia launches to date then no huge loss of time if AMD hit the ground running.
 
2. I agree. People want to believe whatever AMD has is awesome though, it's pointless to argue with what people want to believe. But, it's possible AMD aren't quite ready yet.

There were some Ashes of the Singularity benchmarks a bit ago, but most on here chose to ignore them because they were not in line with their expectations.

I wonder if this was a subtle (but deliberate) way for AMD to gauge the reaction to some of their mid - high end GPUs. The benchmark results were apparently by a user called 'AMD_Orlando'.
 
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Much as i'd love for proper competition again (i've never had a loyalty on either GPU or CPU in 30 years of owning PCs, just whatever looks the best fit for my wallet and needs at the time), something makes me wonder.

1. If the end of October launch is going to be a 'proper' launch, you'd assume the card is finalised and possibly even in production

2. Assuming 1 is correct, they'd have some in-house performance numbers by now and you'd think they'd be leaking those numbers like mad now if it was properly competitive or 'close enough' to encourage people not to drop cash on a 3080 order/pre-order? After all, every 3080/3090 sold is a potential AMD sale lost.

I suppose the other possibility is that its not the 3080/3090 space they're going after anyway, but possibly the 3070 is the competition? OK, that launches ahead of the AMD reveal as well although if supply is as bad as the two nVidia launches to date then no huge loss of time if AMD hit the ground running.

By leaving it so long, it would be nice to assume that they are giving production / distribution more time. In regards to nvidia and in house leaks - they don;t need to do that as customers will cancel pre-orders if they want (nvidia are shooting themselves in the foot rn). Plus they have both consoles to sell.
 
I don't watch rumour mill stuff generally. But, putting down AMD in any way bothers fan boys I guess? I don't think his channel is particularly serious, it's just entertainment and hype mostly.
Well he's trying to steer attention away from Nvidia onto AMD whenever they **** up. He has a massive influence on what people will buy so at least he should be giving AMD the benefit of the doubt until the card is launched before bashing them as an equal failure.
 
I don't watch rumour mill stuff generally. But, putting down AMD in any way bothers fan boys I guess?

I quite like some of his watercooling videos and some of his overclocking videos, but I don't like any of his graphics card reviews. After watching his attempt at overclocking the vega64 and radeon VII without undervolting, it became apparent to me that watercooling is definitely his specialty and I don't watch any of his graphics card reviews. I just go straight to hardware unboxed or tech jesus for my in-depth card reviews these days.

Anyway it's not like the RDNA2 launch can be any worse than the 3080/3090 launch can it? I still feel like nVidia released the 3000 series in a massive rush prior to RDNA2 for a reason, hopefully its because we're about to see the return of competition to the marketplace, which can only be good for buyers.
 
Yeah, I guess its a bit arrogant to assume the launch will be crap like Nvidia's, time will tell, but it's the performance that matters most ofc.
 
They don't really need to beat it, they just need to be competitive on performance and price.

This needs to happen, Nvidia have demonstrated all the bad outcomes of having a monopoly.
I hope they beat it, at least the 3080.

If they only match it but lack DLSS and RTX and the bells and whistles, I'll sadly have to go to the dark side :(
 
If they only match it but lack DLSS and RTX and the bells and whistles, I'll sadly have to go to the dark side :(

I could live without RTX (though I say that having no experience of it) but not DLSS, especially as I upgrade stuff once a decade, going to need to squeeze every little drop of performance come 2030, should there's still be a society and electricity and stuff to power a computer.
 
By leaving it so long, it would be nice to assume that they are giving production / distribution more time. In regards to nvidia and in house leaks - they don;t need to do that as customers will cancel pre-orders if they want (nvidia are shooting themselves in the foot rn). Plus they have both consoles to sell.

If the supply chain gets into gear though then a chunk of those current pre-orders could well be fulfilled in a months time and sales opportunities lost. It'd seem shrewd to stick the knife in a little if you know you've got a good thing on the horizon (e.g. comparable performance at less watts at a similar price point) and you can back it up with actual supply on launch.
 
Seems a bit knee-jerk deciding to go with AMD because of the past week. As **** as the situation is, I'd sooner wait for the better features, drivers and performance that Nvidia offers.

They'll obviously be in a better position to meet the demand as there isn't a much demand, plain and simply. They also come across as a bit cringy in those twitter exchanges, like a vulture picking at scraps. If they were confident they would be releasing actual information about their product.

I have a 3900x, so I'm not exactly anti-AMD - they make excellent CPUs.
I feel sorry for you. Clearly your capacity to think for yourself is greatly hampered, rather than just regurgitate Nvidia marketing and age-old memes.
 
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