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Bravetart said:
A queue doesn't help without any idea of the quantity and frequency of stock anyway. No point being next in line if there's no stock of that product for months!
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Yeah, I don’t think the queue will help much. It’s just something that’ll make everyone’s orders feel a bit more........tangible. Once they see that they are 5905 in a queue where number 5 has yet to receive anymore information than they have, we’ll be back to square 1.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
As long as you have access to the database it sits on you don't need to modify the web shop in the slightest, you just need to hardcode a brand new page which interacts with the database to do a count for you, literally all you need is the database credentials to connect with, that's all. All that requires is understanding the back end schema, what tables are in there and where the data is stored, then how to join the tables to get the information you want. Even if you had no idea of the web shop schema you could infer/learn it in like 30 minutes, most systems like these even very old ones tend to have pretty sane schemas that are easy to read. Remember all you're doing is doing an SQL select which is counting the results of a query, you're not integrating, updating or changing anything in situ, you can do a completely new page in the account section for this easy.



Yeah I mean this is the kind of cycle you'd have for some new major uodate to ensure it rolls out safely. But you don't do that for a single new page which has a single feature which is simply a text field that is the result of an SQL count on the database. Just can just write that, dump it into the account page and you're done, no need for a release window or a user story, it's pretty much the simplest feature a web dev could ever write, to return the result of a single query to the screen.

For the record, I am patient, I've not bothered CS other than to have the address changed on my preorder as I was rushed to hospital for an emergency operation and ordered the card to a friends house while recovering on the ward, luckily now I'm out. But many people have done, some claiming they'll call or leave web notes every day until they get an answer, so it's kind of in their best interest to sort this out ASAP, if nothing else to give some relief to their CS. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been buying video cards for 20 years, I can wait, it's just my experience with development tells me that this is a really trivial thing. Maybe there is some really obscure problem stopping them from doing it, like some kind of licencing thing...I just severely doubt it.
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Again, assuming the databases is accessible and not obfuscated in any way. I have worked on DBs that were in 5th normal form with completely arbitrary design. One I recall, had hundreds of tables with four letter random character table names. It was all generated code and not something that could be easily picked apart. I have spent days going through tables just to build a very basic view. Not saying this is the case, but just pointing out your assumptions are big ones.

Also, forget about making a direct connection into the DB from a web form hastily put together. Even if you have correctly set the permissions to read only, you are risking access to a bunch of confidential data as well as a new vector for DDoS attack. Personally, I would be hesitant to risk an ICO fine in the millions, for a single product, for a subset of customers.

Just trying to point out that this really isn’t as easy as you say. But I do agree that OCUK should provide more information such as orders per card, cancellation rate, etc.
 
Lamy said:
Yeah, I don’t think the queue will help much. It’s just something that’ll make everyone’s orders feel a bit more........tangible. Once they see that they are 5905 in a queue where number 5 has yet to receive anymore information than they have, we’ll be back to square 1.
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As soon as the queue positions come in it'll be

So when they coming in then?
How big are the shipments?
How often are they coming in?
Are they coming by plane or boat?
Is it 48 a week or 47?
So is that 47 of one card or all cards?
So how many of my card is coming in?
Any info on the <insert my card here>?
Will I get my codes?
Why are <insert brand I didn't buy> getting more stock than <insert brand I did buy>?
I'm switching my order to a <insert brand with more stock>?
Will we get a card before October/November/Christmas/the return of Christ?
I'd like to speak to the manager!
My solicitor will hear about this!

All day every day until either everyone gets a card or the heat death of the universe occurs. Either is equally likely.
 
May I have everybody's attention this is serious! I have announcement from Gibbo and the team at OCUK in Gif format...
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Just incase it gives anyone else hope, I canceled my Zotac trinity today. I ordered at 14:05 and was 5th on the unofficial queue with people ordering it before me already having their card.

It wasn't due to overclockers in any way, just with the uncertainty of the cards crashing, and with amd due a release, I feel like I should wait. My original plan was to wait, but I got caught up in the excitement...
 
EviL AnGeL said:
As soon as the queue positions come in it'll be

So when they coming in then?
How big are the shipments?
How often are they coming in?
Are they coming by plane or boat?
Is it 48 a week or 47?
So is that 47 of one card or all cards?
So how many of my card is coming in?
Any info on the <insert my card here>?
Will I get my codes?
Why are <insert brand I didn't buy> getting more stock than <insert brand I did buy>?
I'm switching my order to a <insert brand with more stock>?
Will we get a card before October/November/Christmas/the return of Christ?
I'd like to speak to the manager!
My solicitor will hear about this!

All day every day until either everyone gets a card or the heat death of the universe occurs. Either is equally likely.
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I think you covered the bulk of them. Better brace for impact.
 
Garygary said:
Just incase it gives anyone else hope, I canceled my Zotac trinity today. I ordered at 14:05 and was 5th on the unofficial queue with people ordering it before me already having their card.

It wasn't due to overclockers in any way, just with the uncertainty of the cards crashing, and with amd due a release, I feel like I should wait. My original plan was to wait, but I got caught up in the excitement...
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Cancelling mine too pal. Ordered 14:40. Got a feeling the AMD has something pretty big up its sleeve. This launch has been a joke.
 
Sparx said:
Stop what? I should tell some of the people here to calm it. And I know, I also paid OcUK £650 for my GB Eagle, I am also waiting! But I don't react the way some people have here...

Vote with your feet. I've bought mine elsewhere and debating cancelling my pre-order here now. Only thing holding me back is a friend is after one.

I didn't defend OcUK in terms of communication, just some people's reaction is absurd. OcUK have indeed been poor with the communication.
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Where’d you buy yours?
 
Garygary said:
Just incase it gives anyone else hope, I canceled my Zotac trinity today. I ordered at 14:05 and was 5th on the unofficial queue with people ordering it before me already having their card.

It wasn't due to overclockers in any way, just with the uncertainty of the cards crashing, and with amd due a release, I feel like I should wait. My original plan was to wait, but I got caught up in the excitement...
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Thanks Blowtac pre order here.
 
Ju2ef said:
Maybe this will force them to stop accepting pre orders?
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I genuinely don't understand the eagerness expressed here by some to make them stop taking preorders. The way I see it is is that they will eventually be able to ship the order, and thats what I signed up for when I ordered (even though it said 23rd Sept at the time, I knew that was really unlikely). For me, that's better than having to constantly look for stock somewhere. And if someone isn't happy waiting, all they need to do is request the refund and they'll have that money back in short order. So what's the big deal here?

(And if they did stop taking preorders, the complaints would be coming from people who can't preorder and would like to join the very same queue ...)
 
There is no pleasing some people. Some people are having discussions about how easy it would be to code a queue calculator, other people are pcb design experts and others want daily updates. It came out on the 17th, it sold out and they have said many times they will give an update on a specific thread as soon as it’s available. I had an evga order but as they haven’t even officially released it I cancelled the order. I snagged a palit one anyway. Even if I didn’t have it, it would have just been a case of waiting. I waited 8 weeks for my 1080ti and it came as soon as it was in stock. Ordered a new keyboard from OC yesterday and it arrived this morning on a Sunday. Can’t complain at all.
 
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