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ARCHIVE - *** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION *** - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION

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The thing about queue jumping:

Imagine you're at the store. And for each product there's a separate vendor with its own waiting queue. And at one moment you decide to go to another product, because your queue takes longer to advance. What do you do? Go right to the counter because you were there earlier than most of the people from the other queue? You'd be mauled there because you've jumped queues and expect to be treated preferentially. If you'd like the other product, you'd join the queue at the last existing position available to you.
Or imagine you are queuing at a canteen with a lot of hungry people. Before you get there you think you want meatballs, but then whilst queueing you do some Googling and see that they use horsemeat in the meatballs so you decide to go for jacket potato instead. Would the person behind you in the queue that wanted jacket potato complain that you took his potato because he heard you talking earlier that you wanted meatballs?
 
It's a complete lottery as to which cards are stocked and which are not. Changing card could actually make you get the card later than if you'd stayed.

I realise they are different products so technically different queues, but I think the reality is that most early adopters are not that bothered what brand they have. They just want a 3080.

Some people are limited in the cards they can buy (e.g. due to dimensions). I am not sure they should be punished for the fact that someone else who ordered a different card earlier plumped for the wrong one.

Furthermore, some people spent some time researching which card to buy by reading some of the reviews before they placed an order. Again, why should those people be penalised just because someone who didn't bother to read the reviews has now changed their mind. People who ordered early on 17 September knew the risk they were taking.

You could take it to the extreme - if RDNA2 is launched before we receive our 3080s, can we swap to being at the front of that pre-order queue instead? I presume an order on 17 September will trump all other RDNA2 pre-orders.

I am not that animated about it but it doesn't seem especially fair to me.
 
In theory that should mean I'm in the current or next MSI batch then... I know I shouldn't get my hopes up about this but every time I get a notification on my phone today I'm a little disappointed when it's not OCUK
Just got my despatch email, woohoo!
Ordered @ 14:15 Gaming X Trio.
 
I asked this morning on phone with OC about arranging my recent Asus Tuf order to be placed in the queue where I cancelled my MSi 3080 and was told it would be 'fraud'. Really?

Guy seemed to have a bad attitude this morning. Great customer service.

Yeah I ordered an Asus TUF at 17:30 and am at the back of the queue but I’ll just hold onto the order so I can swap it for an RDNA 2 later in October and be first in line /s.
 
Or in any place really. Thinking of a park too. You don't get to leave a line for one ride and expect to be put ahead of others in another ride.

No queuing system works like that, technologically and in the real world. Back of the line everytime you change

This is a better analogy than the store imo. I've been to a theme park where right as I was at the front of the queue, the ride broke down. They gave me a queue pass to skip the queue on any big ride of my choice as compensation.

If people are changing cards because they want another one faster that's a pretty sucky thing to do. If people are changing cards in light of the reviews showing some cards are sub par, I think that's fair enough.
 
This is a better analogy than the store imo. I've been to a theme park where right as I was at the front of the queue, the ride broke down. They gave me a queue pass to skip the queue on any big ride of my choice as compensation.

If people are changing cards because they want another one faster that's a pretty sucky thing to do. If people are changing cards in light of the reviews showing some cards are sub par, I think that's fair enough.

Not that I disagree (I'd be annoyed to lose my slot because someone can't make their mind up etc) but if you are inline at a coffee shop and change your mind to get the last chocolate muffin instead (Mmmm chocolate) then someone behind you is gonna be short a chocolate muffin!
 
Not that I disagree (I'd be annoyed to lose my slot because someone can't make their mind up etc) but if you are inline at a coffee shop and change your mind to get the last chocolate muffin instead (Mmmm chocolate) then someone behind you is gonna be short a chocolate muffin!

Not the same. In a coffee shop, one queue is for everything. Here, there are multiple queues.
 
My order confirmation was Tue 22 19:46 so hopefully I'm in the first batch.

Indeed. I actually swapped from the EVGA i ordered on launch day - order time was 3.15pm that Thursday. I kept my place in the queue, swapping to the Gigabye Vision and the rep on the phone said there were only 50 orders of the GB Vision. He said something about getting the launch day buying price as well, but this will be confirmed when the card arrives and the price is confirmed.

Tbh, my experience with the support teams has been great.
 
Indeed. I actually swapped from the EVGA i ordered on launch day - order time was 3.15pm that Thursday. I kept my place in the queue, swapping to the Gigabye Vision and the rep on the phone said there were only 50 orders of the GB Vision. He said something about getting the launch day buying price as well, but this will be confirmed when the card arrives and the price is confirmed.

Tbh, my experience with the support teams has been great.
when did you swap?
 
Not that I disagree (I'd be annoyed to lose my slot because someone can't make their mind up etc) but if you are inline at a coffee shop and change your mind to get the last chocolate muffin instead (Mmmm chocolate) then someone behind you is gonna be short a chocolate muffin!

I get that but its not the same. You are not in a queue without an order. You are in a queue after order, you have made a request for an item. It will get done when its done. In the same coffee shop, if you order something fancy + hot food, and the dude behind you orders a black small coffee. Who do you think gets their items first?

People need to know that in our case, people didn't order a 3080, they ordered a SKU of the 3080. An MSI one, a ASUS one.

For OCUK and for the sake of people's brains, they are put into queues. So OCUK can clearly see that they need 100 MSI cards, and 50 ASUS cards and so on.

It's not logical to do it any other way for quick turn arounds.

I know a lot of people changed order and it sucks for them to hear this but it's how it will work. 110% sure.
 
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