This is the point i was trying to make (You made it far better in less words.. lol) but words aren't my strongpoint today.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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This is the point i was trying to make (You made it far better in less words.. lol) but words aren't my strongpoint today.
So multiple people disproving what you're saying is hogwash is now "moving goalposts"? Jog on, pal. Post again when you have something constructive to say.
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But, that's what people said with the last consoles and it never materialised. And it will make less difference now going forward, at least on Xbox games. Most games going forward will be developed and optimised for Dx12 Ultimate or Vulkan. Because the Xbox and PC will be using the exact same DirectX for the first time ever. I reckon it will still be the same as it is now for raster performance, there will be some outliers that play better on AMD or Nvidia GPUs, but, for most games the faster GPU will be better in games. Can't comment on RT performance.
Now it could still be a few tough years for Nvidia if AMD get their next couple of GPU launches done without problems, especially with the mess Nvidia have made with the 3080/3090 launch. The ball is in AMD's court now, can they start off on a good note with their RDNA 2 launch??
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I am using a 2080 ti SLi setup and I don't like the performance drop with RTX on...I won't be enabling RTX on Ampere or RDNA2 cuz it's going to be the same story... I won't be possibly using RTX till the performance drop is less than 2%... which might take 3 or more generations of upgrades (I doubt this, the problem seems intractable)..RTX is a waste of computational power which could have been used elsewhere. I am upgrading my knowledge about RTX in the meanwhile..but it's looking nothing more than a grunt approach to IQ
How many decent games with RTX over the past two years?fact is now the consoles with RDNA 2 are soon to be on the scene, raytracing will become more mainstream and on the desktop AMD Radeon RDNA 2 GPUs will lead the way with every console port optimised for the RDNA 2 architecture, going to be a rough few years for Nvidia.
In the same way games were optimised for GCN and 8 core CPUs for the last generation?
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How many decent games with RTX over the past two years?
Why would every console port on the PC be optimised for AMD, when the PCs got Nvidia in it
Typical childish response when faced with cold hard facts.
Your a troll and a not very good one at that.
Quit trying to stir up controversy in this AMD thread, its more than obvious it is what you are doing, and equally as transparent you are a blatant Nvidia fanboy.
https://twitter.com/CyberCatPunk/status/1312745996888154115
80 CU's and 96 ROP's apparently confirmed.
20 CU's will be given over to Ray Tracing when required.
80 CU's and 96 ROP's apparently confirmed.
20 CU's will be given over to Ray Tracing when required.
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What's great about this is you can have them 80CU when you not wanting or using RT
On Paper this is much better than how Nvidia is doing it. But time will tell just how well AMD does RT, I expect they shouldn't be any issue reason being AMD has been working on RT behind the scene for years now while working along side Microsoft and Sony for the next gen consoles.
Interesting.. I'd heard that RT would just be pushed down the same pipeline so as not to waste hardware? It would be very dependent on good scheduling to make it work with minimal impact that way, but it seems better than dedicating units - unless I'm misunderstanding?
I think that tweet may well be a load of Rubbish
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Coretek said it's a photoshopped altered version. But claims the die size is untouched.
AMD Big Navi “Navi 21” GPU For Flagship Radeon R9 6900 XT Graphics Card Allegedly Pictured, Massive Die & GDDR6 Memory
https://wccftech.com/amd-big-navi-2...-r9-6900-xt-graphics-card-allegedly-pictured/
Videocardz hasn't reported the news yet.
Lol
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No idea.
Its just another rumour, but what makes you think this one is rubbish?
It makes a lot of sense to me given that the RDNA2 architecture has dual CU Work Groups, you see on this slide they are labelled as Ray Tracing or Texture Mapping.
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Source?There was nothing wrong with the drivers though, as they've just admitted that NAVI was broken
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I looked at this article on Xbox:
https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/digitalfoundry-2020-xbox-series-x-silicon-hot-chips-analysis
Total area 360.4 mm2
56 CUs take 47% of area (assuming this includes RB and TMU going by the dieshot)
per CU area 3 mm2
11% area for memory controllers which is 39.6 mm2
I don't know what the multimedia accel zone contains but looks like 4.8% which is 17.3 mm2.. am taking this into the GPU die
Total available area 536 mm2
Total fixed area 56.9 mm2
Total available area for CUs 479.1 mm2
Works out to 160 CU.. this might also mean that the PC CU is twice the size of Xbox CU
Hard to believe but if true the largest sku will have 10240 shaders to match Nvidia
Or some of that die space is taken by infinity cache.. too many variables
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I can't remember now, it may have been a YT vid by Hardware Unboxed or someone, AMD said the problems with Navi, was because they were broken at a hardware level.
I looked at this article on Xbox:
https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/digitalfoundry-2020-xbox-series-x-silicon-hot-chips-analysis
Total area 360.4 mm2
56 CUs take 47% of area (assuming this includes RB and TMU going by the dieshot)
per CU area 3 mm2
11% area for memory controllers which is 39.6 mm2
I don't know what the multimedia accel zone contains but looks like 4.8% which is 17.3 mm2.. am taking this into the GPU die
Total available area 536 mm2
Total fixed area 56.9 mm2
Total available area for CUs 479.1 mm2
Works out to 160 CU.. this might also mean that the PC CU is twice the size of Xbox CU
Hard to believe but if true the largest sku will have 10240 shaders to match Nvidia
Or some of that die space is taken by infinity cache.. too many variables
I'm reluctant to make a thing of this because people in here have a habit of holding it against you when you get your speculations wrong, but, count the CU's in this slide, ignore the blue tab on the side actually count the CU's on the diagram. 20 in each array. 8 arrays.
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