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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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That Polymorph dude had earlier leaked the TU102 dieshot which got picked up by the mainstream tech media.
he is suggesting a 340w navi sku that will match the 3090 in RTX off scenarios.
i am confused.. this is looking like reading through one of those quantum physics experiments
Go go Humbug!
They didn't state a 50% performance increase, they stated up to 50% performance improvement per watt. I highlighted the important parts.
See above, it's up to 50% improvement in performance per watt. Both AMD and Nvidia have used these kind of statements before and it's usually in a very specific cases that it turns out to be true. Look at how Nvidia's 1.9x increase in power efficiency has played out.
Where will AMD's RDNA 2 performance land? I expect it will be faster than the 2080Ti with more memory. But I will be very surprised if those 50% performance improvement per watt figures are reached in anything but cherry picked scenarios.
It would be good to be positively surprised by AMD for a change.
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The Paul RGT guy said it was reported by engineers that it went beyond to more like 60%.
I too would like to be surprised. I dont think you will ever see a horlicks again from nvidia gaffing this badly.
I think actual performance will depend very heavily on its performance per watt ability, and I suspect thats one of the reasons why we didn't see a higher model than the 5700XT when it was released, because even on 7nm the performance per watt compared to turing was poor. This time Nvidia have opened with a stonking power hungry card that has actual regression in the power consumption area. The die size of the 5700XT was pretty small, especially compared to that of the 2070. So die size won't be the limiting factor of a top end performance card for Navi2, it'll be down to its performance per watt. A 50% increase in performance per watt could see a much larger die package being used that along with (hopeful) architectural improvements could seriousily bring competition to Nvidia. Ampere is good performance yes, but only because turing was so trash, and it is a regression in power consumption at the high end.
That's more like it, can't have these pessimists trying to yank the emergency stop chain, especially at top of loop.
That's more like it, can't have these pessimists trying to yank the emergency stop chain, especially at top of loop.
Right
And that's just from you
And that's just from you
I love that you quoted me in your signature, i didn't think it mattered that much, had already forgotten about it.
It will be a win win situation for me thanks to you humbug. If AMD come out and destroy Nvidia (what I want to see) then I will be very happy, if however it is yet another fail, then I will quote your hype train with the one of the train that crashes and burns for the lols. Win win
The Hype Train doesn't have to stop at a warning signal, it just needs to slow down. Unfortunately in the past (Fury, Vega, Polaris) it's actually increased in speed at these warning signals with envitable outcome
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Alreet Guys.. only just getting round to watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjOnWT9U96g
Absolutely spot on, the past two gens have been poor, how could you not see it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjOnWT9U96g
Absolutely spot on, the past two gens have been poor, how could you not see it?
That is how humbug rolls. Full steam ahead. Glory or Disaster. Nothing else will do!The Hype Train doesn't have to stop at a warning signal, it just needs to slow down. Unfortunately in the past (Fury, Vega, Polaris) it's actually increased in speed at these warning signals with envitable outcome
This kind of thing has happened before every AMD release. Remember Polaris? AMD came out and said it was a mainstream card replacing the R9 380. But some info leaked out that showed the RX 480 was performing around 1080 levels. Humbug and a few others were out with their napkin math and worked out it was faster than a 980Ti. Gibbo had to come in and calm the place down.
Or how about Vega, Same thing, info leaked, napkin maths, Vega 64 was going to be faster than the 1080Ti. Even after the Vega FE edition was launched and tested with Game drivers, Some people here still believed it was going to be faster than the 1080Ti. Remember people saying, no way was the Gaming Vega card going to be just above GTX 1080 levels of performance, no way!!
So, No thanks, I am not getting on that train. AMD's statement was up to 50% performance per watt. And until a review comes out that shows otherwise, that's the estimate I am basing my expectations on.
I would rather be wrong and AMD have higher performance than my expectations.
It will be a win win situation for me thanks to you humbug. If AMD come out and destroy Nvidia (what I want to see) then I will be very happy, if however it is yet another fail, then I will quote your hype train with the one of the train that crashes and burns for the lols. Win win
What would you expect from me if AMD are competitive?
That's wrong, WCCF did the napkin maths and said it would compete with the 980TI, that was simply posted here, and not even by me.
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