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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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pugheaven said:
If Big Navi came out running 500W and bleww the compeition into the weeds, I couldnt' give a monkey's, I'll be buying it. I've never even looked at wattage ever when buying a GPU or CPU... my requirement is, is it a weapon and is the price v's performance there, if so, I buy it. Christ when I ran my two 295x2's, that was pulling over 900W - 1000W... overclocked and BF4 ran like a weapon so don't care lol
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A man after my own heart. Winter is coming, blow the doors off and destroy the competition always! It will all be 'wind powered' in ten years so 'free' apart from it never is but until then push the boat out!
 
weldon855 said:
power draw doesn't matter anymore though
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In the words of the Nvidia fan army, power draw doesn't matter as long as it's the highest performing card available.

So if Big Navi is a 400W monster with > 3090 performance, power draw won't matter to them. If it's a 350W card, with less than 3090 performance, then it will be forever known as a power hungry, hot loud card, and have Gregster, Loadsamoney, DP and the other gang members start throwing out the 290x blower meme's etc.
 
What i want is for AMD to be more stringent with AIB's and thier coolers. As Nvidia rightfully do.

I swapped out my ASRock Challenger D 5700XT for an MSI Gaming X 2070 Super purely because of the cooler.

The ASRock one was absolute junk and i got sick of it, the MSI Gaming 1070 predecessor had a vastly better cooler on it and the 2070 Super Gaming X is much better again. you don't see Nvidia cards with junk coolers on them, because Nvidia don't allow it.

If there is one lesson i want AMD to learn from Nvidia its that. Don't let your AIB partners get away with sub par coolers, they carry your technology, your name, they reflect on you, you have every right to set minimum standards.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/msi-rtx-2070-super-gaming-x.b7142
 
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4K8KW10 said:
This is really a good news.
Radeon RX 6900 XT topping the performance chart is exactly what everyone is waiting for and it justifies Nvidia's move to drop the Ti / TITAN branding for RTX 3000 series.

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"512GB/s" i do believe that is 16GB/s GDDR6 over a 256Bit Bus.
 
Kashinoda said:
That chart is from someone speculating the performance, nothing more. For the most part chipell users are no different to posters on here, barring the occasional insider.
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That guy looks like an insider. He leaked the TU102 dieshots.. I was lurking a bit on ChipHell forums, he publishes these estimates on a regular basis.. I was analysing a similar post made by him before August regarding Ampere. Would appreciate if someone conversant with Chinese language could help filter this out.

Btw, that chart portrays "RTX off" scenario and the top most navi SKU is speculated to hit 340w.
 
humbug said:
The performance of the 3080 is fine, the problem is Nvidia themselves said it was going to be much faster than it actually is.
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I don't think they did though.
I saw the same graphs as everyone else and said twice 5700XT performance which it is when there's no bottleneck (4K benchmarks).
 
I believe going by our earlier estimates, someone suggested it would be a "smidgen"below 3080 at 300W TDP.
Even if its underperforming 10% below RTX 3080 at something like 275w, would call it a win for AMD (wont be buying though).
But if its below 2080ti, then its time to pack up...
 
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