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Fair one and it is about the IQ on AMD not being as intensive as NVidia and how the results from the bench skew massively in favour of AMD. Not that I really care but felt it might be important to those who do.
That is not what the video shows, it shows the differences in the built in encoders. And then he mentions the dirt 5 benchmark is inconsistent so he won't be using it anymore.
 
Me either. The difference between both vendors is so small that I just don’t care. There are more important things to look at when choosing a card for me personally.
You know that and in real world, who the Dickens pauses a game, takes a screenshot, zooms in and compares?
 
Not to sure about that lol but something up with the benchmark at least and skewing results in favour of AMD.

Smart use of the new features - for example Variable Rate Shading.

@4K8KW10 Give it a rest and just watch the vid. The guy explains what is what and no need for your rubbish IQ theories again.

Who can guarantee that what he speaks in the video is true?
These people are rarely correct because they are paid.
 
True that. I wanted game specific, playground childishness, on what game is faster on what GPU and we have that now. Prices are the bit that gripes me (from both) and I do miss the old days of £450 buying the top end but I am guilty of spending too much on Titans etc, so best keep my grumble to myself :D

Now I am a preacher to the grumble too. Way before the 290X I would only entertain a £200-300 purchase now and again on a component. I think this year there must be a massive influx of gamers starting off at the entry end buying up all the stock and this snowballs a supply issue.

At work yesterday I spoke to a colleague who has a young teenager and he is a PS4 nut. I was surprised to hear they werent after the PS5 they now want a gaming PC as 'thats what his mate all have' and she said they spent in total about £1300 on the christmas present.. :o
 
Me either. The difference between both vendors is so small that I just don’t care. There are more important things to look at when choosing a card for me personally.
benchmarks have leaned me over to get nvidia instead of amd. but happy amd have caught up. i expect rdna 3 to match or even beat nvidia
 
Now I am a preacher to the grumble too. Way before the 290X I would only entertain a £200-300 purchase now and again on a component. I think this year there must be a massive influx of gamers starting off at the entry end buying up all the stock and this snowballs a supply issue.

At work yesterday I spoke to a colleague who has a young teenager and he is a PS4 nut. I was surprised to hear they werent after the PS5 they now want a gaming PC as 'thats what his mate all have' and she said they spent in total about £1300 on the christmas present.. :o
Same thing at work in the week for me. A guy who loves his PS4 has asked me to build him a gaming PC for FS2020 and when I gave him prices, he didn't even cringe.
 
Same thing at work in the week for me. A guy who loves his PS4 has asked me to build him a gaming PC for FS2020 and when I gave him prices, he didn't even cringe.

lol. I think that summarises the state of play and why were all confused at not only lack of stock but the prices creeping up!!

Oh well, Im glad I didnt bank my year on getting the PS5 as I seen most stores didnt get a restock on thursday and rainforest shoppers opened up their boxes to see nerf guns etc swapped into the box (stolen). :(
 
After playing round with my 6800XT for 2 days, I'm very happy with it. Build quality surprised me, feels like a big chunk of metal. For some reason I imagined it feeling cheep and plastic like.

Every game I've tried on it (about 5) have all hit 144fps constant pretty much, with ultra settings/1440p.

Very pleased.

I hope you all the best luck in securing an AIB card or whatever you're looking for GPU wise. :)
 
You know that and in real world, who the Dickens pauses a game, takes a screenshot, zooms in and compares?
Indeed. And if you think AMD’s default colour is more vibrant and better, you can just make an adjustment in the control panel and have the same on nvidia.

I know some will read what I am saying and be annoyed, but just saying it as it is guys.

The only other thing that comes to mind if your our eyes work, like remember that blue dress where some would see blue and others gold or some crap like that. Could be that playing into it somehow.


WAIT for the 3080 ti
What for? I have a 3080 already which more than does the job for me. For now anyway.


benchmarks have leaned me over to get nvidia instead of amd. but happy amd have caught up. i expect rdna 3 to match or even beat nvidia
Yeah, it all depends on what resolution one games at. What games they are looking forward to playing. How much they value RT currently etc. Don’t think there is a right or wrong choice here.
 
Now I am a preacher to the grumble too. Way before the 290X I would only entertain a £200-300 purchase now and again on a component. I think this year there must be a massive influx of gamers starting off at the entry end buying up all the stock and this snowballs a supply issue.

At work yesterday I spoke to a colleague who has a young teenager and he is a PS4 nut. I was surprised to hear they werent after the PS5 they now want a gaming PC as 'thats what his mate all have' and she said they spent in total about £1300 on the christmas present.. :o
well were during a pandemic and that £1300 would have been used for family holidays etc that obviously did not happen this year
 
Cyberpunk 2077 can offer RT support for the 6800xt. it will just run like Control, just worse. Performance will be bad.
Of course it can but it won`t at the start. That`s the whole point. It needs custom settings just like they do for their Nvidia partners.
https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/1...deon-rx-6000-series-gpus-at-launch-after-all/

"“We are working together with AMD to integrate ray tracing options for their graphics cards as quickly as possible,” CD PROJEKT RED wrote. “However, this will not be the case when the game launches.”
And yes it is the same with Control. They all need custom settings for AMD because so far they only made custom settings for Nvidia. That`s part of the problem for why AMD ray tracing is so terrible ATM stop talking about tensor cores and all that PR nonsense. :)
 
How can they disable the support if it`s all DXR? Are you out of your mind? it is like saying that you stop DirectX. Either both cards run RT on the same files, or they need custom files that can be disabled.

By blocking nvidia cards from enabling it ingame. Stop personally attacking me, i'm not out of my mind because you have no knownledge or understanding.

Directx 12u is supported on the 3080, this includes DXR. The game has to enable the use of this feature on nvidia cards. Godfall blocks use of DXR on nvidia cards. DXR is a standard which means all cards support the same commands and run DXR a standard way. Otherwise DSR games would not run on different hardware. Completely undermining the whole point of having a DXR standard in the first place. Godfall uses Directx DXR as reported here https://hothardware.com/news/amd-godfall-radeon-rx-6000-ray-tracing

The standard sets out how a game should impliment DXR and all cards that want to run DXR games must conform to that standard to be able to state they support DXR. Both AMD and NVidia cards support DXR thus the game will run on nvidia cards. Give they use Unreal Engine 4 and this uses DX12u, there should be no problems what so ever running DXR on nvidia. So why is DXR disabled on nvidia cards? No one knows. Even Control a DXR game that was developed with nvidia help, run fine on AMD cards.

This is a rather interesting and unfortunate turn of events, given that Godfall is using Unreal Engine 4 and leverages the DirectX 12 Ultimate API. Now granted, AMD has been working very closely with developer Counterplay Games on Godfall, so we would expect some kind of deference to AMD GPUs. But considering that DirectX 12 Ultimate should technically support real time ray tracing on both Radeon RX 6000 and GeForce RTX 20/30 hardware, this exclusion is definitely a head scratcher.
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-godfall-radeon-rx-6000-ray-tracing
 
Half of people here who are going amd this amd that radeon good radeon bad would take whichever card would show up first with sufficient stock either be it amd, nvidia or even intel (maybe one day). Main point is both cards are very good, both will give you good time. We finally have competition in the market.
 
It's very interesting how the Nvidia image has no water splashes once the car is in the water:


The start of the video the differences were using the built in video encoders(the 6800s encoder is rubbish at the minute).
When he used the external capture they are almost identical.
Then he goes on to talk about the inconsistencies in the dirt 5 benchmark for each run even on the same cards.
The cars race different lines at different speeds.
The levels of puddled water are different.
The daylight is different with clouds casting blanket darkness.


For example in your screenshot on the Nvidia run the car in front is miles ahead.

I don't believe he even mentions it being skewed on either direction. He just says that it is too inconsistent to be used as a benchmark
 
I think AMD's approach is more reasonable given how expensive ray-tracing is to the hardware and how the framerate tanks with 40-50%.

That spells out why AMD have such poor RT performance with the 6800xt. Guess AMD will have to go out of business. Buy nvidia.
 
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