You can wind yer neck in and all, you know rightly they had a seperate video dedicated to rt performance, dlss etc. Your point of view is so skewed it's like your account is a comedy shill account with how you're spinning things.
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Wow, Nvidia have banned Hardware Unboxed from receiving review samples...
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You can wind yer neck in and all, you know rightly they had a seperate video dedicated to rt performance, dlss etc. Your point of view is so skewed it's like your account is a comedy shill account with how you're spinning things.
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which is still low considering there are millions of PC gamers
A grand for a gpu isn't exactly commonplace for people to fork out for.
But again you can see why Nvidia doesn't like it and fair enough - hardware is reviewing the way they want the product to be, not what the product is.
It's like me reviewing the new iPhone 12 pro and taking 1 picture with a single line saying "yeah its ok" in my review section for the camera, because personally I don't give a **** about taking photos.
Just 3 days ago Gamespot ran into this issue with their Cyberpunk review - their reviewer said she didn't test any of the RPG elements of the game cause she doesn't care about it
there is a lot of videos on that youtube page so im not going to watch them all. all you had to do was provide the links to the relevant ones for this discussion like Grim5 did. i will check those 2 videos out.
The review was already 35 minutes long, not a lot are going to stay for the full 20 mins let alone 35 so it makes sense to split them into 2 segments. The ray tracing video is 22 mins long, there's no way they would have uploaded a near hour long video for a review.
There's this magical new feature called "search", i know typing "3080 ray tracing" into the youtube search on their channel page might be a bit exerting, but it works..
yeah, if only these youtubers put titles and descriptions on their videos.
yea why dont you try doing that search and see how many videos come up. i was after the video that ticked nvidia off. you failed to provide it and a search failed to find it. so whats your issue now?
So let me see, you're clueless about the situation, and clueless about how going to a channels page and using the search option works...got it. Presumably the video (s) that "ticked them off" was the initial reviews of the 30 series.
Good lord, what witchcraft is this?
In all honesty I didn;t think it was just one. Nvidias email was along the lines of "We don't think you give RT enough love so we'll cut back on giving you an FE until you change your editorial direction" - which is why techtubers got mad.
"...I could be that one guy...". Thanks for proving the point. It doesn't matter to the vast majority of people. If you continue the line, you will keep digging yourself into a hole further.
There are many many many reviews and benchmark's out there that will give you all you need to know, and guess what, even from Hardware Unboxed. Your argument falls flat time and time again.
I outright said it was opinion, and indeed so is yours. Either we talk about it and its merits or not. I happen to think RT even after a full generation of Nvidia cards is not used in enough games, and where it is its "ooo thats nice, then it gets turned off". To further drive the point home, Nvidia had to develop DLSS as a way to make it look like they are get good enough frame rates to make RT viable (IMO).
Again, is RT a nice to have? Heck yes. Do I want it? Heck yes. Is it in enough games that it makes a difference? No. Will enough people be able to buy RT cards with enough RT performance to make it useable? No. Most people arent buying 3080 upwards cards, so the vast majority won't be experiencing RT as it should be, and it wont for at least another generation at least.
I think RT is great, but I agree with Steve in HU. Just take a look at most RT reviews. In order for RT to be viable in a game, they enable DLSS. That speaks volumes about whether it is good enough.
We need Nvidia/AMD to keep pushing boundaries. Nvidia have got the hardware, but they need to convince games companies to make better and more frequent use of it in order to succeed. You want RT right now for a limited set of games, plain and simple, buy Nvidia.
Given nvidia waffled on for near 3 hours on the 2xx series launch they must want this level of "commitment" from the youtube reviewers.
The maddening thing is that other tech tubers give RT about the same level of testing and were not cut off. It's only because HU were honest in saying that in their opinion RT as a tech wasn't quite worth the performance drops for the gains it gives right now. IMO that's the important bit - they didn't outright say it was crap, just that there's not enough and where it is there - it's too demanding.
So let me see, you're clueless about the situation, and clueless about how going to a channels page and using the search option works...got it. Presumably the video (s) that "ticked them off" was the initial reviews of the 30 series.
Good lord, what witchcraft is this?
what about all the other videos below it? how am i to know which video nvidia is doing a direct reply to?
We don't know on the whole what video nvidia were responding to, we're guessing it was their reviews of the 3 series to date.
And HU dedicated 100% of their 22 minute video to rt and dlss vs gn 10%. You cant compare reviews in that way as they have different formats and styles, some ramble on more than others.
vast majority? but your ignoring the minority. no matter how small the minority is they still exist and should not be ignored. your further in the hole here than anyone since your again trying to speak for others and your opinion does not roll with every single person.