Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?

fs123 · 25 Jan 2021 at 23:09

Johnny Silverhand said:
Ebay is full of scammers. I bought a 3080 and got burned for £1000, despite the so called "money back garuntee" Ebay customer service literally trolling me.

There are some dodgy sellers but also buyers. a lot of the Ebay gpu's are being bid on by buyers who only have between 0 to 2 feedback. Not sure what's going on there but most probably scammers. I have seen some signs of the madness abating though. 5700XT's were selling for £600 last week but now they appear to be topping out at around £540. There are a few with over £580 bids but the bidders look dodgy with the aforementioned 0-2 feedback.

akistzortzis · 25 Jan 2021 at 23:26

Johnny Silverhand said:
I bought a 3080 and got burned for £1000,

I typically do not risk buying anything of value from low feedback sellers. I want to see 100+ feedbacks, many years back, and some recent ones.

k33mon · 26 Jan 2021 at 09:13

Yeah I recently sold my 2080ti on ebay and cancelled a few orders from suspect individuals. I even put in the description that you must have 10+ feedback and 100%.

One guy with 0 feedback bought it so I cancelled that. A second guy bought it and wanted to collect it from a Sainsburys collect. (seems dodgy as I would never have his address if he were to try scam me) so I messaged telling him I will only ship it to a residential address. He replied saying he's had second thoughts and his system may bottleneck it so cancel the order. hmmmmm suspect i think.

Bug One · 26 Jan 2021 at 10:40

Errrr - an RX 580 is £359 now? WTF. I bought one of those for my son in December 2019 for £135. That's insane.

pp111 · 26 Jan 2021 at 11:26

akistzortzis said:
I do not understand why vendors do not set up a pre-order list rather than encouraging a "Grab it while you can." practice which generates so much negativity. It is all computerised anyway, it would be very easy to do.

Problem is really that NVIDIA should have sorted this out many years ago. They could, for example, have started an NVIDIA global user database. A shop would check with the database to see if you have bought a card before and would be able to judge whether to sell you another or not. Everyone who buys a card is entered on the database. Simple. In that way you could be limited to a maximum of two per customer per shipping address or something. But truth is that NVIDIA don't really care.

Lightnix · 26 Jan 2021 at 11:36

Bug One said:
Errrr - an RX 580 is £359 now? WTF. I bought one of those for my son in December 2019 for £135. That's insane.

I just saw that! You should be able to get a 5700/5700 XT for that money. That's more than the RTX 3060 is supposed to be coming out for. So much wtf.

Johnny Silverhand · 26 Jan 2021 at 13:04

akistzortzis said:
I typically do not risk buying anything of value from low feedback sellers. I want to see 100+ feedbacks, many years back, and some recent ones.

High feedback means nothing. The seller I bought it off had 2000+ feedback and still scammed.

Squid · 26 Jan 2021 at 13:37

gave up, using stadia atm until prices return if they ever do.

Ravenger · 26 Jan 2021 at 13:37

Johnny Silverhand said:
High feedback means nothing. The seller I bought it off had 2000+ feedback and still scammed.

I got scammed when selling some game codes by a buyer with good feedback - turned out his account had been hacked. And of course Ebay & Paypal refunded the money to the hacked seller and let the scammer get away with the stolen games. I'm very wary about selling anything on Ebay now. Never had any experience like that in the years I've been selling on there.

mikehhhhhhh · 26 Jan 2021 at 13:44

I put some relatively high value things on eBay earlier this year - a £1500 Macbook Pro and a ~£600 iPhone 11 Pro.

Both items were won by scammers 3 times despite having bid resitrctions in place to ensure users are from the UK and have a certain feedback rating etc. Every attempt was on an purchased / hacked account.

The MBP sold to someone legitimate on the 4th attempt, I still have the iPhone - I simply gave up!

Blackjack Davy · 26 Jan 2021 at 13:59

I bought a cookery book on eBay for my mother as the one she's had since she was married had simply fallen apart so I managed to find a 1955 edition of Good Housekeeping in very good condition and she's delighted with it and I've bought and sold tons of low value items like that and had zero issues with it.

But if you're buying and especially selling high value, technical or sought after items you need your head examining as they're a mecca for scammers. Ok I will hold up my hands I bought a 5900X on there but the seller was decent and as a buyer I'm at very low risk. But I sure as heck wouldn't be selling one.

FoxEye said:
I know you said "down the line"; PS5 situation currently is just as bad (almost) as GPU situation.

All the stock grabbed by bots and only consistently available on eBay at RRP + £300.

A well known console and other gaming store had a big drop only last week I think it was and every PS5 vanished in a short time, damn bots.

mikehhhhhhh · 26 Jan 2021 at 14:06

Blackjack Davy said:
I bought a cookery book on eBay for my mother as the one she's had since she was married had simply fallen apart so I managed to find a 1955 edition of Good Housekeeping in very good condition and she's delighted with it and I've bought and sold tons of low value items like that and had zero issues with it.

But if you're buying and especially selling high value, technical or sought after items you need your head examining as they're a mecca for scammers. Ok I will hold up my hands I bought a 5900X on there but the seller was decent and as a buyer I'm at very low risk. But I sure as heck wouldn't be selling one.

The trouble is, where else is there to sell stuff like that?

I've never actually lost any money buying or selling on eBay to be fair - the scams have been very obvious.

Bug One · 26 Jan 2021 at 14:12

I use ebay loads. But it's mostly for domestic stuff and sold by high volume stores.

For tech, I usually use to Amazon (does that get me kicked?). My wife got 'tricked' into signing up for Prime just before Christmas - and TBH, it's probably been worth it the amount we've used it over lockdown. The way you're able to order something at 10:30pm and have it delivered the next day is ridiculous.

Blackjack Davy · 26 Jan 2021 at 14:14

mikehhhhhhh said:
The trouble is, where else is there to sell stuff like that?

I've never actually lost any money buying or selling on eBay to be fair - the scams have been very obvious.

Specialist audio and video forums have areas for members to buy and sell and have strict moderation to maintain it as does this site when you've been here long enough.

I've seen loads of high value scams on ebay from hacked accounts people with high/good feedback ratings are most valuable to scammers as they're not easy to spot. They usually give themselves away by similar wording on listings and identical replies if you ask a question. I mean literally identical as they're copy pasta.

Conall · 26 Jan 2021 at 17:00

pp111 said:
Problem is really that NVIDIA should have sorted this out many years ago. They could, for example, have started an NVIDIA global user database. A shop would check with the database to see if you have bought a card before and would be able to judge whether to sell you another or not. Everyone who buys a card is entered on the database. Simple. In that way you could be limited to a maximum of two per customer per shipping address or something. But truth is that NVIDIA don't really care.

so I know NVidia don't care, but looking at it logistically I can't see a way to prevent a person from buying multiple GPUs without the seller asking the buyer to upload some form of legally binding documentation, but even then I could buy a 3080 myself, get my brother to buy a 3080 for me, do the same for my mum, my dad, my uncles, my aunts...

basically it comes down to people not being greedy, but that's about as likely as surviving a black hole

Doc1771 · 26 Jan 2021 at 17:01

Does anyone think we will see a 3080 in the £800 region at any point soon or even a £6800xt for £750.

I just don't really wan to go lower and the 6900 and 3090 don't really offer the performance for the price.

Sleepy Stu · 26 Jan 2021 at 17:07

Palit 3090 for sale on the Spanish rainforest for £1150!!

pp111 · 26 Jan 2021 at 17:09

Conall said:
so I know NVidia don't care, but looking at it logistically I can't see a way to prevent a person from buying multiple GPUs without the seller asking the buyer to upload some form of legally binding documentation, but even then I could buy a 3080 myself, get my brother to buy a 3080 for me, do the same for my mum, my dad, my uncles, my aunts...

basically it comes down to people not being greedy, but that's about as likely as surviving a black hole

I was thinking more in terms of one or two per address. Sure you could send them to other addresses but it would make it really hard to buy 100 cards.

Conall · 26 Jan 2021 at 17:14

pp111 said:
I was thinking more in terms of one or two per address. Sure you could send them to other addresses but it would make it really hard to buy 100 cards.

yeah that's fair, I was running on the assumption that this system would prevent rather than limit

pp111 · 26 Jan 2021 at 17:18

Conall said:
yeah that's fair, I was running on the assumption that this system would prevent rather than limit

I'm not even saying I know the answer, but I am sure that companies could, if they really wanted to, find a good solution.