*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

Oh dear...

Psycho Sonny said:
BMI isn't great but unless you are a proper bodybuilder it's probably not wrong.
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It really is. I'm no body builder, but it has me overweight.

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I'm around 94kg, about 6'3, with a BMI of about 26.5...

Or actually, I found this, I think from the start of last years lockdown. I was probably in slightly better muscular shape than now (gyms having been closed for 4 months and all), but similar numbers -

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Yes, there is some fat, but 'overweight and fat'? I'm not concerned...
 
Body builder is probably the wrong term to use, anyone with more than average muscle will have a meaningless BMI.
 
AndyCr15 said:
Oh dear...



It really is. I'm no body builder, but it has me overweight.

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I'm around 94kg, about 6'3, with a BMI of about 26.5...

Or actually, I found this, I think from the start of last years lockdown. I was probably in slightly better muscular shape than now (gyms having been closed for 4 months and all), but similar numbers -

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Yes, there is some fat, but 'overweight and fat'? I'm not concerned...
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24.9 isn't far off 26.5. or do you disagree with those numbers?

If you did get down to 24.9 you would probably look a lot better.

I did say it's not great as it doesn't take proper muscle mass into account but it's not really wrong is it if you say you are carrying additional fat and it says you should weigh slightly less than what you currently do.

People exaggerate the whole I'm naturally big crap. Yes BMI isn't great but I also said a mirror and topless pictures usually tell a much better story.

In your instance I'd say you aren't far off what you should be but you certainly don't look unhealthy either. It's why they are classifying you as slightly overweight. You are just in the band by a small amount.

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Take a look at the picture above. Truly what difference do you think there is in bodyfat between you two? I'd say maybe 5-7%.

He looks around 12-14% body fat and you look around 19%.

Your target should be 15% body fat. Using proper measurements not scales. To measure bodyfat accurately requires calipers and a dip in a special water tank to see how much water is displaced. You may as well be using magic if you are using scales to measure body fat.

You are in good shape but you are also carrying additional fat. There does come a point where additional fat is good in terms of long distance cardiovascular exercise.

Iirc you are a cyclist it will be impossible for you to lose significant body fat and still cycle long distance.

Again you also iirc made the mistake in GD when I said before that losing weight is 90% diet and 10% physical activity and questioned the legitimacy until loads of others also piped in.

BMI says you are slightly overweight and I'd agree with that. It's beneficial though as you cycle long distance.

You are again confusing weight with fitness. You can be very fit and overweight. Especially when talking about carrying a small amount of extra weight like you are.

Being slightly overweight doesn't mean that you are unhealthy. You are confusing the two.
 
Fell off hard this weekend, hard end to the week with emotional baggage led to drunken Friday, Papa Johns Saturday and a bbq and beers yesterday. Scales this morning higher than they were a few weeks back. I know a lot is water weight due to ingesting loads of salt last 2 days and should settle down mid/late week.

Did actually go for a 3 mile walk yesterday though, most i've walked in over 9 months, feet are killing today.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Again you also iirc made the mistake in GD when I said before that losing weight is 90% diet and 10% physical activity and questioned the legitimacy until loads of others also piped in.
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I don't think that was me, given my big loss is around both cycling and eating better. It kind of annoys me a little when people try and lose weight just by dieting. That's a rather lazy way to do it I guess.

Psycho Sonny said:
Being slightly overweight doesn't mean that you are unhealthy. You are confusing the two.
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I personally don't think I am. We're discussing how much use BMI is, I still say 'not a lot', your waist measurement and body fat % are much more useful.

Psycho Sonny said:
You may as well be using magic if you are using scales to measure body fat.
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Again, I disagree. Yes, they might not be all that accurate, but they will still give a reasonable indication. I didn't loose fat and the body fat % went up, for example. Even if they might be 20% inaccurate, that's still a pretty good indication. For me, it's more about checking which way things are going rather than knowing a super accurate body fat %
 
SixTwoSix said:
Fell off hard this weekend, hard end to the week with emotional baggage led to drunken Friday, Papa Johns Saturday and a bbq and beers yesterday. Scales this morning higher than they were a few weeks back. I know a lot is water weight due to ingesting loads of salt last 2 days and should settle down mid/late week.

Did actually go for a 3 mile walk yesterday though, most i've walked in over 9 months, feet are killing today.
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Well done for being brave enough to get on the scales.

My "Not drinking" went out the window as we had a bbq for my mother in laws 70th, and so from 2pm till 1am i drank. A lot, although didn't really eat much either which didn't help.

Yesterday i had recover bacon butties and pizza for tea!

Today i decided to skip the scales :p
 
AndyCr15 said:
Not exercising is kind of the lazy way. Apparently I'm the one that's mixing up weight and health though, right? :cry:



There's a relief, I enjoy this thread.
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Having to do 3 hours of cardio a day isn't a great way to keep your weight down long term.

Let's say you get hit by a car tomorrow what do you think will happen to your weight. There should be a focus on both with diet being the priority.
 
I thought you were done in here? :( I'm not bothering to discuss it with you as basically, I post something and then you make something up based slightly on that...
 
Lol at the car analogy. 3 hour cardio a day who does that?

Eating in a calorific deficit and weight training 4-5 times a week is sufficient to loose weight.
 
Martynt74 said:
Well done for being brave enough to get on the scales.
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Had to be done, give me kick up the ass to start the week strong :)

Martynt74 said:
My "Not drinking" went out the window as we had a bbq for my mother in laws 70th, and so from 2pm till 1am i drank. A lot, although didn't really eat much either which didn't help.
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Need a break and enjoy yourself every now and then. Sadly, for me it's every 'now', not so much 'then' :D
 
AndyCr15 said:
I thought you were done in here? :( I'm not bothering to discuss it with you as basically, I post something and then you make something up based slightly on that...
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I actually hit the “Show ignored content” to see who was posting in here and as soon as I saw the name regretted it.

Get him on the ignore list and this place is much better! :D

Down around 4kg so far since my original post, will obviously be a lot of water weight and expecting the losses to slow down now :)

Went to the pub Saturday and had two pints and fish and chips, finished the day on 3000 calories :eek:

New box of meals arrived today though and was so relieved haha!
 
Milkybk said:
He's the same in every thread. He believes he can speak his opinion into fact, it's painful. You've made the correct choice ignoring him.
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Megahurtz400 said:
Get him on the ignore list and this place is much better! :D
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Oh don't worry, I'm well aware. The only reason I don't have him actually set on ignore is because he's actually amusing with some of the rubbish he talks, which is the territory we're getting into now.

Psycho Sonny said:
Lol at people backing up that you should still eat doner kebabs and just do more cardio because fixing your diet is the lazy way to do it.
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Like this. No-one has said this at all and now we've moved into the 'him being amusing' territory, rather than someone to discuss something with. Maybe I finally should move him onto the growing list... especially if he's going to be posting rubbish in this thread now. :(
 
Hmmm...so scales aren't moving much weight wise but i'm doing low level calisthenics at the moment and i've noticed that my muscle reading has increased a little and also my BMR is steadily climbing day by day.

While it's widely known that bio impedence scales aren't massively accurate, you can still use it to measure progress. Huge pinch of salt taken with the readings though.
 
SixTwoSix said:
Hmmm...so scales aren't moving much weight wise but i'm doing low level calisthenics at the moment and i've noticed that my muscle reading has increased a little and also my BMR is steadily climbing day by day.

While it's widely known that bio impedence scales aren't massively accurate, you can still use it to measure progress. Huge pinch of salt taken with the readings though.
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Hopefully muscle building and fat coming off at the same time!

Do you take measurements at all? Usually a more reliable way to tell what's actually happening :)
 
Megahurtz400 said:
Hopefully muscle building and fat coming off at the same time!
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I know there is a grace period when a beginner begins working out that they can actually burn some fat and build muscle at the same time, it's short lived however. I wonder if i'm back to beginner status with my break from exercise the last few years :D

Megahurtz400 said:
Do you take measurements at all? Usually a more reliable way to tell what's actually happening :)
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Yeah, I have the obvious, waist, mid section, chest, tops of legs, etc and also photos once per week.
 
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