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More GPU price increases!

I saw over the weekend a major manufacturer selling cards on their uk website for more than retailers are selling them for

This is never going to end soon, and don't think 4000 series being only a year away is going to be any cheaper even if the chip supply issue does get resolved
 
I saw over the weekend a major manufacturer selling cards on their uk website for more than retailers are selling them for

This is never going to end soon, and don't think 4000 series being only a year away is going to be any cheaper even if the chip supply issue does get resolved

Cards have too much value to miners, we need mining cards that out hash normal GPU's at lower power and for them to be reasonably priced (i.e so it wont be more profitable to buy 2 gaming GPU's instead).
 
I saw over the weekend a major manufacturer selling cards on their uk website for more than retailers are selling them for

This is never going to end soon, and don't think 4000 series being only a year away is going to be any cheaper even if the chip supply issue does get resolved
This will be really sad and either pc gaming will slowly die or people will keep being willing to pay extortionate prices for cards forever.......
 
Or... This is pure speculation:

The industry is conspiring to bring the age of SOCs upon us.

1) In the next 5 years APUs will be increasingly seen as the way to game at decent prices.
2) Both Intel and AMD will bring faster and faster iGPUs that will benefit from faster and tighter RAM integration
3) The fastest way of course would be something soldered very closely with integrated cooling, very similar to what Apple just started offering
4) "Pure" gaming will fade as miners and neural networks will keep eating anything offered at semi-reasonable prices
5) "Hobbyst PCs are going the way of the dodo, an expensive hobby that is now increasingly replaced by quieter, cheaper integrated systems that offer superior performance to the consoles for the PCMR"

Let's all hope I'm wrong.
 
Or... This is pure speculation:

The industry is conspiring to bring the age of SOCs upon us.

1) In the next 5 years APUs will be increasingly seen as the way to game at decent prices.
2) Both Intel and AMD will bring faster and faster iGPUs that will benefit from faster and tighter RAM integration
3) The fastest way of course would be something soldered very closely with integrated cooling, very similar to what Apple just started offering
4) "Pure" gaming will fade as miners and neural networks will keep eating anything offered at semi-reasonable prices
5) "Hobbyst PCs are going the way of the dodo, an expensive hobby that is now increasingly replaced by quieter, cheaper integrated systems that offer superior performance to the consoles for the PCMR"

Let's all hope I'm wrong.
You paint a dark future my friend, but not one that is completely unrealistic
 
You paint a dark future my friend, but not one that is completely unrealistic

I'm closely watching the Steam Deck and future RDNA2 APUs. To get stable 1080/60/Ultra (which with upscaling will make at least 80% of the gamers happy) they need approximately 2,5-3X the current performance level, which sounds a lot but right now you're seeing something that has 1/8 the processing power of the old Vega64 hampered by low memory bandwidth.
Even with these constraints, Tom's Hardware tested it with PBO and DDR4-4000 and it reached 50+ average FPS on 1080p medium, which can be compared to last gen consoles.

DDR5 will increase bandwidth, which will allow RDNA2 APUs to actually make sense, which in turn will make a lot of gamers consider them as a viable alternative.
 
Just seen the 6600x has had another price increase in last 24 hours. That £400 I paid for the red devil model is now looking like a good deal just mental what's going on.

The biggest con is the Rtx 3060 price might as well spend the extra and get the 3060ti
 
It's all a bit of a game nowadays - if you have the patience then it's alright. I've managed to do alright I reckon.

2070 Super - Paid £350, Sold for £430 (+£80)
3070 - Paid £600, Sold for £600
3080 - Paid £800, Sold for £1170 (+£370)
3080 Ti - Paid £1050

Looking at £600 net for my 3080 Ti, would have been less if I didn't sell my 3070 at cost to a friend.

Incidentally there were 3080s at £650 available yesterday for a period.
 
This is pure speculation.

Whatever the market will bear.

nvidia have been making record profits. Other sources have been reselling nvidia-based cards at vastly increased prices. So nvidia could vastly increase their already record profits by selling directly at those vastly increased prices. So why wouldn't they? The market will bear it, at least for now. That's proven. The current vastly increased prices might destroy the market entirely, but that's a tomorrow problem.
 
Whatever the market will bear.

nvidia have been making record profits. Other sources have been reselling nvidia-based cards at vastly increased prices. So nvidia could vastly increase their already record profits by selling directly at those vastly increased prices. So why wouldn't they? The market will bear it, at least for now. That's proven. The current vastly increased prices might destroy the market entirely, but that's a tomorrow problem.
Yeah, it may be speculation but the current situation seems to be pointing to even higher prices next gen, at least msrp being higher as people have voted with their wallets and cards are selling out instantly
 
Yeah, it may be speculation but the current situation seems to be pointing to even higher prices next gen, at least msrp being higher as people have voted with their wallets and cards are selling out instantly

Thing is realistically speaking if you have recently upgraded to ampere you should be able to coast through first year of 40 series without needing to upgrade. Some people's resolutions can be played well enough on a turing (right now, even better if your on ampere) especially when you fall back on to DLSS.
 
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