Is it ok to be proud to be white?

[Dis86]

Hey hey hey, don't tar the entire country with that brush! You mean white football fans have a disgusting history of football violence in this country.

I'm reasonably sure fans of all skin colours have participated. Though there were also neo nazi aspects to some groups which generally would rule out anyone other than whitey!

 

[dlockers]

I'm reasonably sure fans of all skin colours have participated. Though there were also neo nazi aspects to some groups which generally would rule out anyone other than whitey!

Ah sorry I thought we were just following the statistics.

 

[Dis86]

Ah sorry I thought we were just following the statistics.

If you've got stats on the ethnicity of violent football fans I'm all eyes!

 

[The Running Man]

But black pride marches aren't just a celebration of past struggles, it's a continuation of the struggle. You can be proud for participating in that.

See above. There are still plenty of illegal homophobic actions and injustices to fight against, and you can be proud of participating in that fight.



Hmm, Northern Ireland marching season?

You could quite easily say there are lots of white struggles especially with the number of white people being murdered by other people, in the US for example.

Or persecution of white women by Muslim rape gangs.

There's a long way to go but very little condemnation in the press.

 

[Screenbeat]

Is gay a colour?

 

[Caracus2k]

Those that attend the pride events are doing exactly that though.

Pride events are themselves a form of activism, so by attending you are by definition furthering the cause.

Hilarious nonsence.

Unless you think kink/ paraphillia promotion is the form of activism mostly being undertaken these days.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425518708412370947

Contemporary Pride is mostly about an socialising, corporate promotion/ woke washing, and an excuse for exhibitionist to come out in public.

In terms of actual activism there isn't any left other than obliterating the meaning of the word 'woman' and trying to normalise a ever wider range of paraphillas.

 

[Skunkworks]

They'll have different meanings for individuals but mostly to celebrate how far they've come in terms of rights and as a reminder of the work still to be done.

Because most members of that group have done something to further and progress the rights of the collective.

Its fine if you have actively done something to contribute, otherwise its just riding coat tails.

"It's different when our side do it."

 

[Deleted member 66701]

"It's different when our side do it."

Eh?

 

[Deleted member 66701]

You could quite easily say there are lots of white struggles especially with the number of white people being murdered by other people, in the US for example.

Or persecution of white women by Muslim rape gangs.

There's a long way to go but very little condemnation in the press.

Yes, and anyone working to correct those injustices should rightly be proud of the work they do.

I for example work with a charity that seeks to provide opportunities and development activities for disadvantaged, white working class children. I'm proud of that work.

 

[GIBURROWS]

This country has a disgusting history of football violence (really can't believe you're ignorant of this) and multiple English football fans have been killed in Europe (and the UK) in the last decade.

But only Chelsea or football fans and then because of an extremely small minority all football fans are tarnished by you....

 

[VincentHanna]

Yes, and anyone working to correct those injustices should rightly be proud of the work they do.

I for example work with a charity that seeks to provide opportunities and development activities for disadvantaged, white working class children. I'm proud of that work.

Come on mate, that's all very well and good, but it's hardly in the same league as the effort @The Running Man puts in to moaning on a computer forum incessantly.

 

[Dis86]

But only Chelsea or football fans and then because of an extremely small minority all football fans are tarnished by you....

Slightly confused how I'm 'tarnishing' a Chelsea fan there. Then again given its you you probably don't actually have a clue what you're talking about.

 

[Dis86]

Yes, and anyone working to correct those injustices should rightly be proud of the work they do.

I for example work with a charity that seeks to provide opportunities and development activities for disadvantaged, white working class children. I'm proud of that work.

When's the pride march? I'll come along yo support you and further your cause.

 

[GIBURROWS]

Slightly confused how I'm 'tarnishing' a Chelsea fan there. Then again given its you you probably don't actually have a clue what you're talking about.

Firstly you mentioned Chelsea specifically as a reason to kill someone then when questioned you cited football violence but only mentioned Chelsea previously when other clubs fans have committed murder?

Have we had an issue in the past that I'm unaware of?

 

[Dis86]

Firstly you mentioned Chelsea specifically as a reason to kill someone then when questioned you cited football violence but only mentioned Chelsea previously when other clubs fans have committed murder?

Have we had an issue in the past that I'm unaware of?

Where have I stated a Chelsea fan has done anything to warrant, and I'll say again, "Tarnishing"?

 

[AORUS]

Dunno, but Google tells me it's legit

So BLM & BP are nationalism, one's own nation and support for its interests especially detriment of the interests of other nations, isn't that racism! Also there movement is to fight white racism in white man countries where is the logic in that! Why didn't they take the fight back home for Africa and it's people! After all South Africa has the one of the highest crime rate in the world with a notably high rate of assaults, rape, homicides, knife crimes and other violent crimes compare with the US, UK combined and now black people are three times more likely to be killed on the streets of London in knife attacks than other white\ethnic groups.

The disadvantage of been white is having our opinions\rights taken away from our own country because of a weak UK government

 

[explicit4u]

[snip]

There's plenty of criticism from LGBT+ people about some of the antics that go on at pride, to say this is representative of the entire parade is hilarious nonsense

And white people can't celebrate how far we've come in terms of science, tech etc? Throughout most of modern history human advancement was driven by white, male Europeans. Heck the modern industrial world was pushed forward by a few British white males who were the drivers of the industrial revolution.

I can't comment on the white males dominating human advancement in modern history, but I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with celebrating it but I'd ask why attribute it to race?

Like Devrij mentioned in post #900 i've never come across white people talking about collective whiteness the way other groups do unless it's referring to things like stats. Obviously with the current climate there's more talk about white people collectively and their actions but it's still not common place in day to day life.

So BLM & BP are nationalism, one's own nation and support for its interests especially detriment of the interests of other nations, isn't that racism! Also there movement is to fight white racism in white man countries where is the logic in that! Why didn't they take the fight back home for Africa and it's people! After all South Africa has the one of the highest crime rate in the world with a notably high rate of assaults, rape, homicides, knife crimes and other violent crimes compare with the US, UK combined and now black people are three times more likely to be killed on the streets of London in knife attacks than other white\ethnic groups.

The disadvantage of been white is having our opinions\rights taken away from our own country because of a weak UK government

Google is free, black nationalism doesn't mean what you think it means. What you're describing sounds more like black separatism or black supremacy.

 

[VincentHanna]

The disadvantage of been white is having our opinions\rights taken away from our own country because of a weak UK government

Sounds like you are saying anyone who isn't white can't claim the UK as their "own country"

 

[Dis86]

I can't comment on the white males dominating human advancement in modern history, but I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with celebrating it but I'd ask why attribute it to race?

Like Devrij mentioned in post #900 i've never come across white people talking about collective whiteness the way other groups do unless it's referring to things like stats. Obviously with the current climate there's more talk about white people collectively and their actions but it's still not common place in day to day life.

That's kind of the point. Why do we have Black pride? The main part there being Black as in the race.
Sure, celebrate African culture or your roots but not your race. As I said earlier though, I bet there's about as much in common between a black kid from Reading and someone from the DRC as there is between me and llama.

 

[Hagar]

That's kind of the point. Why do we have Black pride? The main part there being Black as in the race.
Sure, celebrate African culture or your roots but not your race. As I said earlier though, I bet there's about as much in common between a black kid from Reading and someone from the DRC as there is between me and llama.

Pride is almost entirely taken up by minorities who feel that it gives them an edge or something to hang onto. Not all minority members, but those who feel most insecure.