Upgrade 6900XT Gigabyte Waterforce or Powercolour Liquid Devil

[IIISLIDEIII]

It flashes faster and then stays red where as this just blinks red I thought that but no leaks at all

I am about to buy the same gpu, I would be curious to know if you have solved it, your situation has put me some doubts about the purchase

 

[Hewligan]

The leak detection on the Waterforce cards and MB is really overly sensitive. I have the z490 Waterforce motherboard and the leak detection was the bane of my life. Fittings had to be super loose to avoid the metal of the fittings contacting the gold rings of the detection system, creating a “short” that is seen as a leak. That led me to have the fittings so loose that sometimes fluid would leak very slowly, which obviously also set the leak detection going. Then a clean up and wait job for it to dry, and repeat. In the end I actually removed the single pin from the Header that houses the leak detection so that it couldn’t send its signal. It has worked flawlessly for 6 months since then.

For the person that asked how much to pay for a 6900 XT: you can find them in UK retailers for £1200 or less. Just spend 15 minutes searching. I personally would not pay that, but they are available.

 

[VersionMonkey]

I am about to buy the same gpu, I would be curious to know if you have solved it, your situation has put me some doubts about the purchase

I bought the same card, but did not experience the problem @Absorbentsolid did.

I did, however, get a couple of micro extenders to fit into the card before the fittings as amigafan2003 suggested.

Edit: These will fit inside the leak detection rings:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...-male-to-female-fitting-nickel-wc-a4v-ek.html

 

[IIISLIDEIII]

I bought the same card, but did not experience the problem @Absorbentsolid did.

I did, however, get a couple of micro extenders to fit into the card before the fittings as amigafan2003 suggested.

Edit: These will fit inside the leak detection rings:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...-male-to-female-fitting-nickel-wc-a4v-ek.html

thank you.
how's the card apart from that, does it have a good overclock?

 

[JediFragger]

@Too Tall also has the Waterforce and is very happy with it iirc.

 

[VersionMonkey]

thank you.
how's the card apart from that, does it have a good overclock?

I don't know what constitutes a good overclock (and to be honest I don't really know what I'm doing when overclocking) but I can push the slider to 2780MHz (and it's still stable in games and benchmarks). The memory on the other hand doesn't seem to want to go very far.

On the whole it seems like a good card.

 

[Too Tall]

I'm very happy with my card, it has the fastest out of the box default clock that i've seen (2669). It overclocks very well too.

I tend to just FPS limit the card now to 170fps though so the clocks are much lower..

 

[Absorbentsolid]

I am about to buy the same gpu, I would be curious to know if you have solved it, your situation has put me some doubts about the purchase

I RMA the card and they said it was a fault with the power. So must have been a dud card for gigabyte to confirm it. I ended up with the powercolour card I’m over the moon. I did a 11 hour stream the other day not once did my system go over 38c that’s with a overclock of 2700mhz no crashes or anything. Only thing I dislike about the card is there is a coil whine to it. But I use noice cancelling headphones 99% of the time so it helps. But the card has a lot of head room from what I can tell. I’ll have to investigate more and bring back results of my card. For the price I paid for it I’m happy. I’m just waiting for FSR to be implemented to more games. As Vanguard shocked me I had all the settings turned to max enabled FSR at 4K constant over 200FPS it looked buttery smooth on my lg oled 120hz tv

 

[IIISLIDEIII]

I RMA the card and they said it was a fault with the power. So must have been a dud card for gigabyte to confirm it. I ended up with the powercolour card I’m over the moon. I did a 11 hour stream the other day not once did my system go over 38c that’s with a overclock of 2700mhz no crashes or anything. Only thing I dislike about the card is there is a coil whine to it. But I use noice cancelling headphones 99% of the time so it helps. But the card has a lot of head room from what I can tell. I’ll have to investigate more and bring back results of my card. For the price I paid for it I’m happy. I’m just waiting for FSR to be implemented to more games. As Vanguard shocked me I had all the settings turned to max enabled FSR at 4K constant over 200FPS it looked buttery smooth on my lg oled 120hz tv

I'm evaluating between the aorus and the powercolor liquid devil ultimate, on the devil almost all the owners complain about the coil whine, this is also a bit annoying, I don't understand if it is a general problem of all 6900s or if only of this model ?

 

[VersionMonkey]

I'm evaluating between the aorus and the powercolor liquid devil ultimate, on the devil almost all the owners complain about the coil whine, this is also a bit annoying, I don't understand if it is a general problem of all 6900s or if only of this model ?

My understanding is that it can be a problem for any high-end card.

My Gigabyte card does, I think, have some whine when running benchmarks. It's quite hard to hear and I've only really noticed it when running benchmarks with the case up on a bench with the side of the case off. Someone more sensitive to the particular sound may find it more noticable, though.

 

[IIISLIDEIII]

My understanding is that it can be a problem for any high-end card.

My Gigabyte card does, I think, have some whine when running benchmarks. It's quite hard to hear and I've only really noticed it when running benchmarks with the case up on a bench with the side of the case off. Someone more sensitive to the particular sound may find it more noticable, though.

noise not a big problem for me if it comes from the case, it becomes a problem if you trigger the noise through your speakers or headphones

 

[Absorbentsolid]

noise not a big problem for me if it comes from the case, it becomes a problem if you trigger the noise through your speakers or headphones

The noise isn’t that loud but it’s noticeable when your room is silent and there’s no background audio going on. I can live with it very easily I’ve had worse coil whine on previous cards for sure.

 

[IIISLIDEIII]

The noise isn’t that loud but it’s noticeable when your room is silent and there’s no background audio going on. I can live with it very easily I’ve had worse coil whine on previous cards for sure.

I believe you, if it does not trigger background noise on the headphones it is not a problem, there are some cards that generate a coil whine that goes through the power supply and goes to generate a noise on the speakers, , a kind of hum that increases as the load on the gpu increases, but I guess this is not the case

 

[BigBANGtheory]

I'd be more concerned with spending £1700 on a card which will be barely midrange come this time next year.

I'm not sure those categories work any longer, at what point do you consider the top spec GPUs to simply be unclassified because of their exclusivity and price.

but yes I agree spending £1.7k now for a product with effectively a 1yr head start on performance vs what you should see end of 2022 is a tough sell tbh

 

[IIISLIDEIII]

I'm not sure those categories work any longer, at what point do you consider the top spec GPUs to simply be unclassified because of their exclusivity and price.

but yes I agree spending £1.7k now for a product with effectively a 1yr head start on performance vs what you should see end of 2022 is a tough sell tbh

it has always been like this with the top of the range, even those who buy the new cards that will be released in 2022 will find themselves in 2023 with other updated models.
If you think like this you don't buy anything.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

it has always been like this with the top of the range, even those who buy the new cards that will be released in 2022 will find themselves in 2023 with other updated models.
If you think like this you don't buy anything.

Its not always been like this because of the sums of money involved so no you are very wrong on that.

 

[Joxeon]

it has always been like this with the top of the range, even those who buy the new cards that will be released in 2022 will find themselves in 2023 with other updated models.
If you think like this you don't buy anything.

You may get a super version or something of the like etc the following year from the main release but those are usually at best a 5-10% improvement, the big gains will come from the releases that feature a new architecture and given that AMD are moving to 5nm and the rumoured MCM designs the top card should be a sizeable jump just over what we have right now not just in terms of raster performance but also raytracing which is likely to see a big improvement over AMDs first attempt.

I was sitting on a 1070ti back in 2019 and considered upgrading to an RTX 2070 super but decided to hold off for the next full release and ended up with a 3080 for not much more than the 2070 super would have cost me yet a huge amount of extra performance. Had I not been able to get a 3080 near release for the MSRP then there is no way I'd be paying twice as much for one now with the next gen around 9 months away.

 

[IIISLIDEIII]

Its not always been like this because of the sums of money involved so no you are very wrong on that.

it may be that the situation will improve in 2023 but we do not know, in May of next year there could be changes on ethereum but even this we do not know for sure.

The point is that the top of the range, both on the cpu and on the gpu, has always been and always will be the band that suffers most of the devaluation, there are updates year after year, it is inevitable.

 

[IIISLIDEIII]

You may get a super version or something of the like etc the following year from the main release but those are usually at best a 5-10% improvement, the big gains will come from the releases that feature a new architecture and given that AMD are moving to 5nm and the rumoured MCM designs the top card should be a sizeable jump just over what we have right now not just in terms of raster performance but also raytracing which is likely to see a big improvement over AMDs first attempt.

I was sitting on a 1070ti back in 2019 and considered upgrading to an RTX 2070 super but decided to hold off for the next full release and ended up with a 3080 for not much more than the 2070 super would have cost me yet a huge amount of extra performance. Had I not been able to get a 3080 near release for the MSRP then there is no way I'd be paying twice as much for one now with the next gen around 9 months away.

these are the same speeches that are repeated cyclically with each generational leap, whoever buys the new amd "7900" will find himself having to deal with the 8900 'models that will come in the next generation, it is a dog that bites its tail.
In this hobby, if you want to have the top of the range you have to accept this, it has always been like this.

there will always be a new hardware that wins over the previous one, at any time you decide to enter the game and invest your money you must know that in a few months something will come out that will go faster than what you are buying at that moment.

the great gain on the new architectures that we all expect every time, once obtained, is punctually beaten after 2 years by the next architecture, it has been like this for 30 years.

 

[Joxeon]

the great gain on the new architectures that we all expect every time, once obtained, is punctually beaten after 2 years by the next architecture, it has been like this for 30 years.

This is why it's best to buy gpus when they have just come out as you have the full 2 years before it is surpassed rather than just 9 months if that and even more pertinent now especially considering the inflated prices which may or may not last into the next gen.