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No China isn't happy with this war at all, they will not help.

China rely on Ukrain for iron ore, corn and sunflower oil. As well as that they sell billions to Ukrain every year.

This war has not gone down well with China at all.

They are trying to get Putin to negotiate.

Will Putin survive this huge gamble

Not a chance if he loses, all his cards are on the table with this one.
 
Truly cutting off Russia from the west is most likely going to lead to the one or all of the following outcomes.
Russia gets a lot closer with china and countries in the east. Imagine a nato like alliance between china and Russia.
War in past has previously been fought for resources if Russia gets desperate then expect WW3 to happen.

I suspect that China are attempting furiously to save face internally. Someone said teaming up with Putin was a good idea, bring him across for the Winter Olympics they said, sane chap they said..
 
I suspect that China are attempting furiously to save face internally. Someone said teaming up with Putin was a good idea, bring him across for the Winter Olympics they said, sane chap they said..

They moment they said it wasn't an invasion and then it being so very clear that it was in fact an invasion is the moment they knew they'd made a rather important error as it impacts on their own plans in the future.

Plus the reality of a war with a hostile populace being livestreamed to Beijing has probably got them on edge regarding Taiwan.
 
I suspect that China are attempting furiously to save face internally. Someone said teaming up with Putin was a good idea, bring him across for the Winter Olympics they said, sane chap they said..

Yep, I think Russia have completely isolated themselves from any political allies they had.
 
Could be scenes reminiscent of people queuing for bread during the collapse of the USSR. It's the ordinary Russian people I pity, the leaders of their mafia state couldn't really give a toss.
Aye. Ruble will plummet in value again.

I’m not sure what this will do for gas supplies, the Russians need the money more than ever.
 
They moment they said it wasn't an invasion and then it being so very clear that it was in fact an invasion is the moment they knew they'd made a rather important error as it impacts on their own plans in the future.
Putins first mistake was claiming a region could become recognised as being independent, as someone tweeted about days ago.

Probably should have said he's reunifying Russia
 
Imagine a week ago, Saturday night most were out for a drink or a walk, damn how things change
Is that something normal people do?:eek: My saturday nights are pretty much spent the same way, but instead of talking war with mates with booze, I'm doing it on an internet forum... Oh jeez I've hit a new low!:cry:
 
I wonder if this will make ordinary Russians turn on Putin. I imagine there'll be some real hardship in Russia shortly.
 
I’m not sure what this will do for gas supplies, the Russians need the money more than ever.
You can pretty much expect the price of gas and electricity to increase by at least the same amount they did over the past 12 months.

All those energy providers who recently offered fixed tariffs to try and amass customers must be absolutely filling their pants right now.
 
They moment they said it wasn't an invasion and then it being so very clear that it was in fact an invasion is the moment they knew they'd made a rather important error as it impacts on their own plans in the future.

Plus the reality of a war with a hostile populace being livestreamed to Beijing has probably got them on edge regarding Taiwan.

China are patient. They will play the long game as they've seen the short game from Ukraine.
 
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