What do people think about the Russian athletes removed from the Paralympics? I can't agree with it, they would have trained half their lives for it, they shouldn't be directly held responsible for Putin's actions and they will suffer from the sanctions like all Russians as well, it seems very petty and spiteful to me.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Are you ok with other Russian athletes being banned from competitions?
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Not fair at all to the athletes but not fair to the civilians who are getting killed, I don't agree with that either…so I dunno…it is another tool to send a message to Russia, no matter how small.
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Couldn't give a single flying **** about them. Why should they be allowed to compete when Yevhen Malyshev will never compete again?
IIRC nobody would compete against them so...
It is not a good time to be a Russian.
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You're saying you can spot propaganda from factual news? Because nearly everyone would say exactly the same, we all think we wouldn't get sucked in by it. There is a reason regime after regime put so much effort into propaganda and its because it works.
I think if they competed it would just be them and China
You know when people refuse to compete against other people because of nationality then maybe we should start thinking that we are not doing something right here. I understand if individual athletes are banned for supporting war but this reaction is clearly not right.
Putin tells his people that Ukrainians and Russians are one people and your take from that is that he wants to nuke Ukraine ? yes yes i see it too now
Russia applied to join NATO in the 50s, they got turned down because, well having Russia in the "lets gang up on Russia" club would kinda complicate things xD so they started the Warsaw pact instead as their own NATO.
If Putin is willing to end life as we know it by launching first-strike nukes, why would he be detered by NATO? I was resopnding to someone who claimed Putin wouldn't do X because he would be destroyed....as if Putin was afraid of being destroyed.
I personally don't take him at his word. He may, or may not, be willing to launch nukes first.
I just don't think people should simultaniously warn us not to "escalate" Putin into launching nukes while also claiming Putin would never go x far because we would crush him if he crossed Y line.
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Bit like the rest of the population.
They have been brought up to NEVER question authority, or orders.
You get ordered to do something, you do it zero questions asked , as you know full well, one wrong comment, and you loose your job and you plus most of your family get sent to god knows where.
People over here just cannot comprehend what a completely different society it is.
Russias lost, there is no win now, Russias win was having a puppet state.
Russia now has a sanctioned and soon to be desperate country. Their loss is huge.
Military wise they have far from won, apart from the artillery wherethey can slaughter civillians in their homes but it doesn't give them victory,
There is a lot of fight left in the Ukranians. The weopons coming in from the west are devestating the Russians. They just need a way to neutraise the arty bombardments.
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Actually Putin wanted to join NATO early in his premiership, but did not want to "wait in line" behind other countries who had already applied.
Putin told David Frost in an interview once, he would not rule out joining Nato “if and when Russia’s views are taken into account as those of an equal partner”.
He told Frost it was hard for him to visualise Nato as an enemy. “Russia is part of the European culture. And I cannot imagine my own country in isolation from Europe and what we often call the civilised world.”
It feels like an over-correction but I think the current worldwide feeling is "attack everything Russian" and if you dare to stand-up and and say it's harsh you risk being harangued by those who are only seeing "red" right now.
Disgusting TBH, the IPC should be ashamed.
I'm not a fan of victimising regular Russians for the crimes of their dictator when there's nothing they can do about it but victimising disabled Russians is just vile.
The worst thing about it is, this whole "lets try and make life as bad as we can for the people of [insert country] so they overthrow their dictator(s)" thing has NEVER worked. It failed with Cuba, it failed with Vietnam, it failed with North Korea, it failed with Iran, it failed with Iraq, it failed with Afghanistan, it failed with Iran (again), it failed in Libya*, it failed in Syria and it's going to fail again here as it's been proven time and time again that attacking the people of [insert country] at best doesn't work and at worst makes them more sympathetic to their dictator(s) because you're attacking them too.
*Yes I know Libya did "rise up" but it wasn't enough people to do anything noteworthy, the only reason the rebels won there is because NATO acted as their defacto air force and bombed any military resistance to the rebellion into oblivion.
I’m sure all the other countries currently bombing another will also be banned.
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I'm saying we should be able to choose for ourselves what we wish to believe or not, that is supposedly a key ethos of a free society, banning it is just doing what Russia is doing and is wrong
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