Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Did you see the same video?! The turret is aimed at the car, you see it fire two shots, both shots hit the car. Captured on a building CCTV with a follow up from phone footage when people later go to investigate the scene.

I see the CCTV footage in the end and ye its as stated here, the phone footage is what I see a week ago.

Actually made the Daily Mail today disgusting scenes.


This is awful surely something needs to be done regarding evacuations?
 
They can have my MIG-29 too for free :D
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This thread is a cesspit of hate and hypocrisy. Let them stew in it.

Most people hate this war of aggression by the dictator Putin.

You have a few hypocrites who will perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify Russias actions.

I wonder if they would feel the same if the same Russian playbook was used elsewhere.

India initiates a special operation to undo the Muslim invasion/British map doodles?

NKorea decides to carpet bomb Seol?
 
I wonder what happened to all the old Mig 29s that the west got hold of on the fall of the iron curtain, shame if they melted them down, or maybe they are not serviceable as not been used for a decade or two

"By the 1990s, Western pilots had ample opportunity to fly MiG-29s as the German Air Force incorporated the MiG-29s of East Germany. Later, the United States even bought twenty-one from Moldova."

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/r...le-russia’s-mig-29-fulcrum-still-kills-190737
 
Most people hate this war of aggression by the dictator Putin.

You have a few hypocrites who will perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify Russias actions.

I wonder if they would feel the same if the same Russian playbook was used elsewhere.

India initiates a special operation to undo the Muslim invasion/British map doodles?

NKorea decides to carpet bomb Seol?

They're just on the other side, under the guise of "anti war" Christopher Hitchens spoke about them years ago....

 
Biden did stop the keystone oil line and stop some federal lands from pumping oil.
That was a bad move.

Wonder if russia will turn off the gas?

9000 approved permits not being used by oil companies in the US. Exxon records highest profits in 7 years in 2021. Maybe ask them why they aren't opening up those approved oil and gas fields and raising production. Biden doesn't control how much oil and gas they bring out of the ground. It suits them to have high prices.
 
Sigh, dismiss the platform, dismiss the person, dismiss this, dismiss that...

Whatever it takes so you can ignore the message. Focus on content. There are no arbiters of truth, even the people you trust. No one's bulletproof, it's agendas "all the way down"

I don't know anything about the guy but he was an advisor to the US government, obviously that counts for nothing. The message is true though, that's pretty much what the situation is, not that you'd know it listening to the media. Our media is all about 'bad russia/poor ukraine/hero selenskiy'

Such basic parameters, 'look at this child', 'threat to the UK', all this little triggers to get you fired up.

People need to stop letting the media wind them up and pointing them in a direction.

Choose your own direction.

You dont seem to understand that russia is the aggressor here and they started the war.
 
I’m not a warmonger and find all the non technical and non factual bravado a bit of an embarrassment. However there are a couple of personal indications that when you zoom in to which regime of the two has the just cause in this Ukraine are the victims.

Consider:
I know Ukrainians and Russians at work in London. They don’t hate eachother. The Ukrainians and looking to send aid. The Russians are embarrassed. In my line of work Russia has gone from “emerging” a month ago to “uninvestible” in 2 weeks. Finally the fact we can have this debate, or even protest (Patel amendments pending) without being arrested just for doing it tips the balance for me.

Beside the pub talk I just hope everyone focusses on the humanitarian crisis as this is the real problem for people like you and I at this time. Give generously.

It’s easy to tub thump for either side if you have no skin in the game.
 
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