Poll: Australian Grand Prix 2022, Melbourne - Race 3

[el_dazza]

Without looking at the writing of the rules, if I was Williams I might have tried pitting at the end of the last lap itself, as their pit stall is well before the finish line.

Not worth it as they would have risked a point, but if they were going to miss out then I'd have given it a go and argue about it later.

See 1998 British GP

 

[Mr Jack]

Without looking at the writing of the rules, if I was Williams I might have tried pitting at the end of the last lap itself, as their pit stall is well before the finish line.

I was half expecting them to try that. But checking the regs, a tyre is only considered used once they leave the pitlane.

 

[this_is_gav]

See 1998 British GP

That was different as the finish line was before the Ferrari pit stall. That particular loophole was closed pretty quickly too to avoid a repeat.

I was half expecting them to try that. But checking the regs, a tyre is only considered used once they leave the pitlane.

Fair enough then. Yes, the tyre graphic only appears when the enter the track.

 

[chrismscotland]

I wonder what exit clauses are in Max' new Red Bull contract......

 

[JRS]

I wonder what exit clauses are in Max' new Red Bull contract......

Where's open to move to?

 

[Mr Jack]

I wonder what exit clauses are in Max' new Red Bull contract......

Who would he go?

Besides, he's in a car as fast as the Ferrari. That's the best available.

 

[I_M_Weasel]

Without looking at the writing of the rules, if I was Williams I might have tried pitting at the end of the last lap itself, as their pit stall is well before the finish line.

Not worth it as they would have risked a point, but if they were going to miss out then I'd have given it a go and argue about it later.

I never understand why they leave pit stops so late in these circumstances - why not at least get a few laps use out of that new tyre.

 

[this_is_gav]

Shocking strategy by Alpine not to pit under the safety car, or do what Williams did and wait it out. It was a free pitstop, they would have been able to bolt on a set of mediums, and while they wouldn't have made it to the end they could have stuck that third set on earlier and likely still would have been in the points.

Instead they finished dead last, a lap down, with a car which this weekend was capable of challenging for the front 4 grid spots.

I wonder what exit clauses are in Max' new Red Bull contract......

He'd be stupid to leave even if he had a clause (which no doubt he will). There's nothing to suggest Ferrari will have the best car in even a few races time, let alone for next season or for years to come. They're the best at the moment, but this is Ferrari - they've hardly got a good track record for developing cars consistently.

Mercedes won't have an empty seat until Hamilton leaves, so he'd better off staying. You can make fixes for reliability. Plenty of other cars are having reliability issues too (see Mercedes and Renault).

I never understand why they leave pit stops so late in these circumstances - why not at least get a few laps use out of that new tyre.

Because they would have lost track position if they'd pitted earlier, with no guarantee they'd be able to pass.

 

[lego]

I never understand why they leave pit stops so late in these circumstances - why not at least get a few laps use out of that new tyre.

Safety Car

 

[Mr Jack]

Shocking strategy by Alpine not to pit under the safety car, or do what Williams did and wait it out. It was a free pitstop, they would have been able to bolt on a set of mediums, and while they wouldn't have made it to the end they could have stuck that third set on earlier and likely still would have been in the points.

Those mediums were a disaster, putting them on earlier would have been worse. The VSC came at a time they looked likely to make it to the end, they couldn't have known they'd grain as much as they did, nor that the hards would be quite so fast for as long as Albon demonstrated.

 

[adam cool dude]

See 1998 British GP

Didn't they change the rules after Schumacher did that?

 

[Mr Jack]

Mick, Gasly, and Yuki summoned for an incident behind the safety car. KMag and Alonso summoned for forcing another driver off track.

 

[this_is_gav]

Those mediums were a disaster, putting them on earlier would have been worse. The VSC came at a time they looked likely to make it to the end, they couldn't have known they'd grain as much as they did, nor that the hards would be quite so hard for as long as Albon demonstrated.

Yes, but they'd have been able to pit for the second set of mediums at a more opportune time and likely still finish in or at least near the points, remembering that they would have been much further up the road than they were when they pitted under the VSC.

Cars were experiencing graining in the first stint (Ocon presumably among them), so even though the fuel load would be less they should have anticipated it.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

This, some posters in this thread need to remember that

Nah some of you need to grow up and stop talking about voodoo crap in a technology based sport.

But soon these remarks will change to that of boredom when the championship is over by summer end and everyone's complaining that there is no point to watching F1 anymore.

 

[Psycho Ned]

Ted doing a shoey out of some random fans shoe

 

[chrismscotland]

Just had another look at Sainz spin - basically exactly what happens when I play F1 2021!

 

[Mr Jack]

Yes, but they'd have been able to pit for the second set of mediums at a more opportune time and likely still finish in or at least near the points, remembering that they would have been much further up the road than they were when they pitted under the VSC.

Not really. They'd have lost more time because they'd have still had a pitstop not under safety car, and lost positions by pitting under safety car. And, yeah, some cars had bad graining on mediums didn't but they still needed to run the mediums so better to risk it under the expectation that fresh mediums would be faster than old hards and give that time to play out as well as taking advantage of the VSC than hang it out and pay a full pitstop penalty. It was only Albon's frankly blistering pace on those ageing hards that meant the strategy worked out for him, even then he was only 0.3s ahead of Zhou when he exited the pits.

Alpine and Haas made the best call with the information available; whilst Williams gambled and got lucky. Thems the breaks.

 

[muon]

Red Bull must be loving those Mercedes AMG engineers they poached that they keep gloating about.

Honda must be happy they timed their exit perfectly.

 

[Bald-Eagle22]

Charles on another level today , well done .

Starting to see a very composed George coming through at the moment and even though he had a bit of luck he had a very solid drive. Lewis is going to have to up his game a little and stop moaning.

 

[Irish_Tom]

Nah some of you need to grow up and stop talking about voodoo crap in a technology based sport.

But soon these remarks will change to that of boredom when the championship is over by summer end and everyone's complaining that there is no point to watching F1 anymore.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting it’s a literal manifestation of the Indian philosophy of karma — it’s a turn of phrase to express a bit of Schadenfreude.