Power to Mick Lynch

[Dirk Diggler]

Nice, I'll just take that all at face value then, /r/Labour is basically just a Jeremy Corbyn fan club/Hammer and Sickle sub.

Absolutely, you just ignore the facts because a) they don't suit your agenda and b) they don't suit your agenda.

Why waste time trying to dispute what's been said when you can just shoot the messenger and carry on regardless...

 

[Roar87]

Absolutely, you just ignore the facts because a) they don't suit your agenda and b) they don't suit your agenda.

Why waste time trying to dispute what's been said when you can just shoot the messenger and carry on regardless...

You're literally taking one side of the argument and presenting it as factual and your source is a picture from a far left sub-Reddit. Maybe you can source the information from somewhere verifiable and we can discuss it?

 

[Deleted User 298457]

You're literally taking one side of the argument and presenting it as factual and your source is a picture from a far left sub-Reddit. Maybe you can source the information from somewhere verifiable and we can discuss it?

If you don't even know what the union is asking for, how can you be outraged?

 

[Dirk Diggler]

You're literally taking one side of the argument and presenting it as factual and your source is a picture from a far left sub-Reddit. Maybe you can source the information from somewhere verifiable and we can discuss it?

I've answered your question by presenting the reasons as provided by an RMT member. What's your bar here, you refuse to believe it unless it's from the Daily Mail sidebar?

If you dispute any of the facts then go ahead and do it. Start with no wage increase for the past 2 years, it's easily verifiable.

 

[Roar87]

If you don't even know what the union is asking for, how can you be outraged?

I think I've made my position clear, if you haven't understood what my position is then I would suggest you go back and read the thread.

 

[wesimmo]

Absolutely, you just ignore the facts because a) they don't suit your agenda and b) they don't suit your agenda.

Why waste time trying to dispute what's been said when you can just shoot the messenger and carry on regardless...

You can see the inconsistency in that sort of poster's arguments in full light in this thread.

Their positions are typically more about how they see their stance as 'owning the libs' as opposed to the actual facts.

Hence you get contradictory positions such as the one I challenged @Roar87 on when he blames the workers for the state of the rail network, because opposing the strikes is 'anti-libs', but also gives full credit to Elon Musk for the success of his companies because Elon seems to be 'owning the libs' with his Twitter stunt.

 

[Roar87]

I've answered your question by presenting the reasons as provided by an RMT member. What's your bar here, you refuse to believe it unless it's from the Daily Mail sidebar?

If you dispute any of the facts then go ahead and do it. Start with no wage increase for the past 2 years, it's easily verifiable.

It's a picture from a far left sub-Reddit, it is completely one sided.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

I think I've made my position clear, if you haven't understood what my position is then I would suggest you go back and read the thread.

New facts on your position have come to light though - you don't even know what the unions are asking for!

 

[Roar87]

You can see the inconsistency in that sort of poster's arguments in full light in this thread.

Their positions are typically more about how they see their stance as 'owning the libs' as opposed to the actual facts.

Hence you get contradictory positions such as the one I challenged @Roar87 on when he blames the workers for the state of the rail network, because opposing the strikes is 'anti-libs', but also gives full credit to Elon Musk for the success of his companies because Elon seems to be 'owning the libs' with his Twitter stunt.

To clarify, my position is that everyone who works for the rail network is ****. This includes both bosses and workers. Elon Musk is an integral part of the success of his companies, obviously he has talented people working for him, and alongside him. If Elon Musk took over our train companies you know for a fact they would be running like clock work within a few years. I understand why someone so obviously insecure would hate someone who is quite obviously secure, hard working and successful though.

 

[MikeTheNative]

To clarify, my position is that everyone who works for the rail network is ****. This includes both bosses and workers. Elon Musk is an integral part of the success of his companies, obviously he has talented people working for him, and alongside him. If Elon Musk took over our train companies you know for a fact they would be running like clock work within a few years. I understand why someone so obviously insecure would hate someone who is quite obviously secure, hard working and successful though.

How is telsa full self driving going?
That's arrived on schedule right?

 

[Roar87]

New facts on your position have come to light though - you don't even know what the unions are asking for!

They're striking because they are unhappy with their pay, despite the fact they overpaid. They have been on strike numerous times over the past 5 years. The service they provide is terrible, the problems are at every level of the train company. If it were up to me I'd sack every single person who works for the rail network and start from scratch because those companies are rotten.

How is telsa full self driving going?
That's arrived on schedule right?

Tesla has become the most valuable car company in the world in under 20 years, so incredible is how I would say it's going considering how wildly successful and revolutionary the company is. They're even doing a great thing for the environment and pushing new technology forward. Nothing is enough for the hammer and sickle bunch though if the owner is worth a bit too much money.

 

[wesimmo]

To clarify, my position is that everyone who works for the rail network is ****. This includes both bosses and workers. Elon Musk is an integral part of the success of his companies, obviously he has talented people working for him, and alongside him. If Elon Musk took over our train companies you know for a fact they would be running like clock work within a few years. I understand why someone so obviously insecure would hate someone who is quite obviously secure, hard working and successful though.

Ah, a typically nuanced view of the situation.

TBC, I dislike Musk, despite his obvious talent and achievements, for his personal views and behaviour, or at least the views and behaviours he chooses to make public.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

To clarify, my position is that everyone who works for the rail network is ****. This includes both bosses and workers. Elon Musk is an integral part of the success of his companies, obviously he has talented people working for him, and alongside him. If Elon Musk took over our train companies you know for a fact they would be running like clock work within a few years. I understand why someone so obviously insecure would hate someone who is quite obviously secure, hard working and successful though.

Is that Elon Musk potential sex offender?
Or Elon Musk who doesn't believe in worker rights?
Or the Elon Musk that randomly calls aid workers paedophiles just because they called out his bs submarine?
Or the Elon Musk that had his own daughter cut ties with him?

Such a role model for business

 

[Deleted User 298457]

They're striking because they are unhappy with their pay, despite the fact they overpaid. They have been on strike numerous times over the past 5 years. The service they provide is terrible, the problems are at every level of the train company. If it were up to me I'd sack every single person who works for the rail network and start from scratch because those companies are rotten.

All you've done is confirmed you have no idea what they are asking for, and what is being asked from them

 

[Roar87]

Ah, a typically nuanced view of the situation.

TBC, I dislike Musk, despite his obvious talent and achievements, for his personal views and behaviour, or at least the views and behaviours he chooses to make public.

I would've thought you would support his desire for free speech on Twitter considering your historic use of Twitter

 

[Roar87]

All you've done is confirmed you have no idea what they are asking for, and what is being asked from them

So I've read the source you quoted, as well as read articles and listened to interviews previously, but I have no idea what they're asking for? Ok mate lol

 

[Semple]

"Unfortunately"?

Lol that was the first thing that I started questioning. Why is it unfortunate?

 

[Dirk Diggler]

It's a picture from a far left sub-Reddit, it is completely one sided.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, I'm not wasting any more time with you.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

So I've read the source you quoted, as well as read articles and listened to interviews previously, but I have no idea what they're asking for? Ok mate lol

They're striking because they are unhappy with their pay, despite the fact they overpaid.

Yeah but you aren't demonstrating you understand a thing when you play it back like you have done. Then you froth at the messenger being a Labour sub-reddit.

 

[Roar87]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, I'm not wasting any more time with you.

Fantastic.

Yeah but you aren't demonstrating you understand a thing when you play it back like you have done. Then you froth at the messenger being a Labour sub-reddit

Ostensibly it is a Labour sub-reddit, the reality is that nothing on that sub-reddit is remotely moderate or left of centre. It is a far-left sub-reddit mostly focused on absolute hatred of the Tories.