*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

My wifes a very lucky lady! Abandoned all day on a Saturday, then gets me coming home, filthy and smelly and barely able to move for days :D

I'm tempted to post on here that if i don't hit 90kg by Christmas then i'll give £100 to charity. I'm a cheap bugger so that might force me to really make the effort!
 
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Yep, MyFitnessPal is brilliant. If you're constantly snacking you'll be shocked how much that adds up over a day.
Being more aware of what I eat, wearing a fitbit that tells me to get up and move around every hour and walking a minimum of 10,000 steps a day is all I'm doing to lose weight, and it's working. No need to overthink it.
I've done more than enough fad diets over the years, keep it simple.
 
SixTwoSix said:
When I was militant on my tracking, it turned out each coffee with milk was circa 30 calories with semi skimmed milk, soon added up through the day.
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Yeah, i only tend to have 1 coffee in the morning so i figure it's negligible. I would also say i just estimate calories for meals. Like if i make a batch of soup, i don't work out each portion i just guestimate, on the assumption some i'll be under, others i'll be over.

I figure i do enough exercise that i don't need to be too concerned about 100-200 calories per day. Calculators suggest my BMR is 2379 based on no activity. If i aim for a net goal of 1600 after exercise, i should be ~800 less each day. Even with a lack of logging accuracy, i should still be down ~400 a day at least which adds up to ~3000/week which should be 1/2kg a week at a minimum.

Will experiment more after this weekend as need to have enough to support this weekends run, after than i don't have any proper events for a while, so as long as i'm covering regular training i should be fine.
 
It's actually quite scary how many calories you can shove in with a few treats here and there - this past fortnight I've been eating around 3000 kcals instead of the 1900 I should be on. And I foresee it not really improving now that all the shops are getting their Christmas goodies in. I've already eaten a box of 9 mince pies.
 
ic1male said:
It's actually quite scary how many calories you can shove in with a few treats here and there - this past fortnight I've been eating around 3000 kcals instead of the 1900 I should be on. And I foresee it not really improving now that all the shops are getting their Christmas goodies in. I've already eaten a box of 9 mince pies.
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Mince pies are amazing though and especially heated up. ;)
 
ic1male said:
It's actually quite scary how many calories you can shove in with a few treats here and there - this past fortnight I've been eating around 3000 kcals instead of the 1900 I should be on. And I foresee it not really improving now that all the shops are getting their Christmas goodies in. I've already eaten a box of 9 mince pies.
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I just don't buy junk. If I buy it, I eat it, so it's best I don't have it in the house.
 
ic1male said:
It's actually quite scary how many calories you can shove in with a few treats here and there - this past fortnight I've been eating around 3000 kcals instead of the 1900 I should be on. And I foresee it not really improving now that all the shops are getting their Christmas goodies in. I've already eaten a box of 9 mince pies.
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I was out food shopping yesterday and picked a pack of half chocolate coated cookies, the extra special, fancy kind. I happened to look at the traffic light label and they were 137 calories per biscuit. I quickly put them back and moved on.


It's also staggering the calories in some "meals" that a lot of people eat regularly. For example, toast and marmalade for breakfast.

This is my mother in law's regular breakfast, whom was complaining she needed to drop a few pounds.

When I actually broke it down and showed her an actual measured portion of butter and marmalade, compared to what she actually spreads on her toast, it turns out it's over 750 calories for her small breakfast.

That's more more calories than the vast majority of my main evening meals and I have a plate full of food.

Breakfast cereal is another. Pour your normal portion into a bowl, then weigh it against the actual portion size calories on the box. Most people pour at least 4 portions into a bowl, for me it was probably closer to 6 back in the dark days of me eating Crunchy Nut cornflakes every morning. Plus the cheeky bowls late at night.
 
Almost the opposite of what we do in this thread, I'm trying to care less about calories right now.
barmyllama said:
for me it was probably closer to 6 back in the dark days of me eating Crunchy Nut cornflakes every morning
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Wow, how big are your bowls!!! I thought I was bad as mine were generally around 60-70g (so about 2 portions) but 6! About 200g?!?! Really?! I'm fairly sure a whole box is often only about 450g?

Your point is correct, but I think you might have exaggerated a little? :)
 
AndyCr15 said:
Your point is correct, but I think you might have exaggerated a little? :)
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Probably not. I used to fill the bowl until they were piled high and spilling over the sided, pour the milk on slowly, eat until I could see the milk and then refill the bowl with cereal.

Pure gluttony, if I'm honest. When I think back to type foods and the amounts I used to eat, I'm surprised I wasn't bigger than I was. Probably lucky I had a very physical job and a more youthful metabolism to help out.
 
But you don't count the weight of the milk. I poured until the cereal was literally spilling over and it was still just under 4 servings. I would suggest that this state is not how 'most people' eat their cereal. I don't think I would have tried to get milk into this bowl... I weighed (as I have before) my large serving in a bowl and it was 90g, so 2.25 servings. I would suggest it is quite easy for a lot of people to be doing this.
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I used to fill the bowl until they were piled high and spilling over the sided, pour the milk on slowly, eat until I could see the milk and then refill the bowl with cereal.
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But we're giving advice to people with normal behaviour and the point was around not realising you're eating a lot. To behave as quoted and not realise your eating a lot is frankly baffling...
 
AndyCr15 said:
But you don't count the weight of the milk. I poured until the cereal was literally spilling over and it was still just under 4 servings. I would suggest that this state is not how 'most people' eat their cereal. I don't think I would have tried to get milk into this bowl... I weighed (as I have before) my large serving in a bowl and it was 90g, so 2.25 servings. I would suggest it is quite easy for a lot of people to be doing this.

But we're giving advice to people with normal behaviour and the point was around not realising you're eating a lot. To behave as quoted and not realise your eating a lot is frankly baffling...
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I realise that.

I was responding to the point made about how easy it is to consume large amounts of calories without actually realising just how many.
 
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But we're giving advice to people with normal behaviour and the point was around not realising you're eating a lot. To behave as quoted and not realise your eating a lot is frankly baffling...
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And yet there's plenty of people who stuff themselves with takeaways 7 days a week but because they only eat one meal a day or however else they rationalise it to themselves they can't understand why they're morbidly obese and can't seem to lose any weight.

When it comes to eating people are weird.
 
barmyllama said:
I was responding to the point made about how easy it is to consume large amounts of calories without actually realising just how many.
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Yes, hence my comment that your point was correct, but the example is exaggerated a little. Most people probably have twice the serving, maybe, maybe 3 times.
**EDIT** Actually, thinking about it, thinking back to working with lots of people, having breakfast with them, most people are around 1½ servings. Bigger people maybe 2+
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When it comes to eating people are weird.
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Definitely. I get that some people just don't care, but yes, I've seen some people eat huge servings and then talk about how they don't understand they can't lose weight. Mind-boggling.
 
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AndyCr15 said:
Yes, hence my comment that your point was correct, but the example is exaggerated a little. Most people probably have twice the serving, maybe, maybe 3 times.
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I'm not going to get into an argument as to whether or not you think I can't or didn't eat, what equates to six recommend serving sizes of cereal.

Lets just move on.
 
barmyllama said:
I'm not going to get into an argument as to whether or not you think I can't or didn't eat, what equates to six recommend serving sizes of cereal.
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I was not trying to dispute that. Look again. I was shocked you were eating that much, but I was commenting all along around what people might be serving themselves and not really think about...

As you say, lets move on, people eat more than they think/realise...
 
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@barmyllama Im with you on this one mate, i really love a big bowl, so i have some ikea deep bowls and when i load up to the brim my portion of crunchy nut corn flakes is easily 150g not including any milk which i could easily top off the bowl using 600-700ml.

My current portion is 100g and 300ml which does make the bowl appear to look full but as the widest part is at the top the added weight is easy to fit in!

Lets not even go there if i fill the bowl with Alpen!!! we are talking 300g at least..... its mental how many calories can be eaten without realising it.

This year has been a total journey for me in terms of portion sizes and relative food value. The number one thing i learnt this year was track your food, track your food, track your damn food! everything for at least 1 month, otherwise you will never truly learn to respect food and just how much is what!.
 
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