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Just had a browse round b&q. The Erbaur range has got a very DeWalt like feel to it, almost the same dimensions and with the rubbery grippy feel. The Ryobi range is more plasticky in comparison and slightly less compact.
 
Can’t fault erbauer, have a 150mm random orbital sander and track saw by them. All did the job fine. The saw tracks aren’t great. But fine for a DIY’er.
 
For some odd reason the erbauer ext kit with the 5ah batteries is a tenner cheaper than the kit with the 2ah batteries.

Sigh...

I'd be buying if the pricing on these items was right but it's not. £160 for erbauer kit is close to price for DeWalt kit. £170 for 2ah battery kit if that was £130 I'd go for it.
 
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I think you need to stop thinking those cheaper dewalts are any better than the erbauers etc. They really aren't until you step up to the more expensive tools.
 
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I think you need to stop thinking those cheaper dewalts are any better than the erbauers etc. They really aren't until you step up to the more expensive tools.

Agree.

I’ve got loads of hilti kit, the problem with them is they’re heavy duty stuff and yeh they are better but not enough to justify the cost also they don’t do enough tools, they still don’t do a wet dry hoover or a multi tool, chop saw etc.

So I went for the milwaukee m12 - their stuff is superb and pretty much have enough oomf to do everything. If I was going down the route of getting things like leaf blowers, grass cutter, hedge trimmers etc I’d be looking at their m18 range. It’s massive.
 
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Agree.

I’ve got loads of hilti kit, the problem with them is they’re heavy duty stuff and yeh they are better but not enough to justify the cost also they don’t do enough tools, they still don’t do a wet dry hoover or a multi tool, chop saw etc.

So I went for the milwaukee m12 - their stuff is superb and pretty much have enough oomf to do everything. If I was going down the route of getting things like leaf blowers, grass cutter, hedge trimmers etc I’d be looking at their m18 range. It’s massive.

I'm sure a little bit that if I wasn't tied into Bosch, then Milwaukee would have my money.

Those asking what is best online is one of those questions that will never get an answer you are expecting, as everyone will have their favourites and will swear by them.

Do a few independent reviews online and also check what trade (not sponsored trade) use day in-day out and take into account that some premium names will use **** parts on their lower priced products.
 
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I'm sure a little bit that if I wasn't tied into Bosch, then Milwaukee would have my money.

Those asking what is best online is one of those questions that will never get an answer you are expecting, as everyone will have their favourites and will swear by them.

Do a few independent reviews online and also check what trade (not sponsored trade) use day in-day out and take into account that some premium names will use **** parts on their lower priced products.

There might not be a best product overall, but considering pricing there will be an optimum product at any one time.

Like for example if erbauer and DeWalt were similar price then choose DeWalt. Or for example is it better to get a bundle kit with impact driver for £200 or a better drill individually for £130.

And it's incredibly difficult to tell if the DCD778 bundled with the kits is better or worse than for example the dcd796. Or is the Erbauer matching those or not?

Plus the pricing is all over the place. Screwfix have 3 or 4 versions of the bundle kit all at £199 with different battery sizes and one is a refurb unit. How can the refurb unit be the same price as the new unit.
 
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There might not be a best product overall, but considering pricing there will be an optimum product at any one time.

Like for example if erbauer and DeWalt were similar price then choose DeWalt. Or for example is it better to get a bundle kit with impact driver for £200 or a better drill individually for £130.

And it's incredibly difficult to tell if the DCD778 bundled with the kits is better or worse than for example the dcd796. Or is the Erbauer matching those or not?

Plus the pricing is all over the place. Screwfix have 3 or 4 versions of the bundle kit all at £199 with different battery sizes and one is a refurb unit. How can the refurb unit be the same price as the new unit.

Screwfix are alright, but tbh I'd rather check out sites like Powertoolworld and FFX first.

Find a brand you are happy with as are many others and stick with it and build on it.

Forget the deals and blings and stick with what is known to be the best :)
 
Not read the last few posts so I'm unsure if it's been mentioned alread but another thing to consider is warranty. DeWalt had the best warranty (3yr) compared to Makita (2yr iirc) when I was looking at a tool previously.
 
I swear by Bosch Professional tools and if you know where to look they can be had at a decent price.
Yep Bosch Blue for the win.. Never had one fail. Even had the 36v SDS fall off a roof... Was more worried about by newly fitted Indian stone than the drill.... Knew the drill would be ok :D
 
Yep Bosch Blue for the win.. Never had one fail. Even had the 36v SDS fall off a roof... Was more worried about by newly fitted Indian stone than the drill.... Knew the drill would be ok :D

Got to admit my heart missed a beat reading that, but felt much better knowing the 36V survived the fall. Feels the thoughts on the Indian stone though :cry:

That said the tools are such a pleasure to use and over the years have never missed a beat for me.
 
Just had a browse round b&q. The Erbaur range has got a very DeWalt like feel to it, almost the same dimensions and with the rubbery grippy feel. The Ryobi range is more plasticky in comparison and slightly less compact.
B&Q (as far as I’m aware) are running out Ryobi and don‘t have any of the newer HO tools, which I think are only available on the Ryobi website. I’m sure Erbauer are great and so long as you can guarantee they’ll keep making batteries for them I’m sure you’ll be really pleased with them. The “safety” in a big brand is they don’t change the batteries much so you can continue to get compatible tools and batteries going forward. That’s why I don’t buy Parkside, Worx, Erbauer etc.
 
Tbh I'm completely ready to buy a DeWalt drill, have been for ages, but struggling to select which one I actually get.

I know dcd996 is the top model, but below this I'm not clear on the order of things even after researching.

At what model do DeWalt become equivalent to erbauer Ryobi etc.
 
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I'm getting pretty desperate for a drill now chaps after needing to do some work in my kitchen tonight and not being able to get some screws out by hand as they've been driven in hard.

Which is the best deal out of these:




Or a bundle with impact driver eg:



I just need to know which one of those is best value for money spec for price.
 
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I'm getting pretty desperate for a drill now chaps after needing to do some work in my kitchen tonight and not being able to get some screws out by hand as they've been driven in hard.

Which is the best deal out of these:




Or a bundle with impact driver eg:



I just need to know which one of those is best value for money spec for price.
It’s VERY unlikely that a screwdriver will undo screws that you cannot undo by hand. They just don’t have the torque.

For what you describe I would probably use a 3/8” ratchet driver with a suitable (impact rated) positioning bit or if you really want to maximize your chances to **** up the screw an electric torque wrench (not the same as an impact driver).

The positioning bit slides over the top of the screw head and stops the bit slipping off the screw. They also usually also feature extra-strong magnets to help hold the bit on the screw when you drive it in.

Or if you’ve chewed up the screw head then you could use a screw extractor with an electric drill and you want as much torque as possible.
 
Ok here are some spec comparisons for a range of Dewalt combi drills:

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The DCD996 and DCD805 are both top end and well over £200 for a kit including batteries. Out of those two I think the DCD805 is actually the better drill looking at how compact it is, but the 996 takes the top spot on torque.

In the mid range the DCD796 and DCD709 both look ok. I would really like the 796 as it has that bit more speed, torque and power, but isn't quite as compact as the 709. Problem is I can't buy it locally. At £100 currently in toolstation I think the 709 is a good deal, its just whether I will regret not having that bit more speed and power.

Below this the 795 looks similar - good speed, but lower torque and less compact. Haven't seen that one bundled anywhere maybe its an older model.

And then at the bottom of the pile are the 778, 708 and 785. None of those have a metal chuck and one isn't brushless. The 778 is what gets bundled at Screwfix so that option is now dismissed.

Ideally I'd want the 796 but as I don't want to wait for delivery I may have to get the 709 deal.


Now I have to select a bit set.
 
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