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Not much excitement for RDNA3, compared to the RTX 4000 series

It's only good news if they release the Founders Edition of this GPU for a much lower price, and keep to the release schedule.
I'd rather they delayed it and released for a sensible price, have a feeling nvidia is going to supprise us with a 4080ti for $1200 to counter AMD and cut the 4080 16gb to $900.
 
It's definitely excited, I'm doing a full build early next year so I've got several hardware launches to look forward to.

I'm eager to see 7000X3D, 13k series and certainly 7800xt+ gpus.
There was mention of maybe November 20th in the rumour mill as of today.
 
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Inferior raytracing performance
Inferior upscaling quality
Probably no dlss 3.0 alternative

Probably for like 150 quid less than nvidia .. I’d say that’s behind
Hats of to nVidias marketing department for convincing you these are things you need. Hundreds of £s on a GPU and you still want/need upscaling.
 
Inferior raytracing performance
Inferior upscaling quality
Probably no dlss 3.0 alternative

Probably for like 150 quid less than nvidia .. I’d say that’s behind

Oh so you know that rdna3 is gonna be all these things? Can i take a lend of your crystal ball for the lottery numbers?
 
The 4090's use of DP 1.4 has injected some patience into my desire to upgrade.

AMD's use of DP 2.0 could get me to look past their neglect of VR driver regression over the past few months.

AMD is using DP 2.1 this time.


Nvidia has to add planned obsolescence into their products to make sure they sell next time even while the new standards are there to use now. Same old Nvidia and same old games to make you upgrade next time.
 
Hats of to nVidias marketing department for convincing you these are things you need. Hundreds of £s on a GPU and you still want/need upscaling.
Nevermind upscaling which has gone from "very bad, only for console peasants" to the best thing ever, now totally fake frames to get higher "Avg FPS" while introducing extra latency (DLSS 3.0) is an essential feature!

How the PCMR have fallen (mostly for Nvidia PR's soundbites)!
 
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I'm not interested in RT performance in the slightest, what I'm interested in like someone else said it's price/performance. I want my next card to last as long as my 970 had at least - but I refuse to spend more than a month of rent on a GPU :cry:
 
Nevermind upscaling which has gone from "very bad, only for console peasants" to the best thing ever, now totally fake frames to get higher "Avg FPS" while introducing extra latency (DLSS 3.0) is an essential feature!

How the PCMR have fallen (mostly for Nvidia PR's soundbites)!
The irony, especially when antialiasing used to be actually rendering at X times native and downscaling!
 
Not much excitement, as the vast majority don't want to risk BSOD, bad drivers, worse compatibility compared to the smooth easy out of the box experience you get with Nvidia. IMO these are the biggest reasons.

I'm saying that as someone who bought many high end AMD cards on release, more than most (Radeon VII, Vega64 Liquid, RX480, Fury X, 390X, 290 to name just a few).
 
I think AMD will price them around £50 less for mid range, so I'm just struggling to care. If these were even close to being competitive. AMD would have leaked some data
 
Not much excitement, as the vast majority don't want to risk BSOD, bad drivers, worse compatibility compared to the smooth easy out of the box experience you get with Nvidia. IMO these are the biggest reasons.

I'm saying that as someone who bought many high end AMD cards on release, more than most (Radeon VII, Vega64 Liquid, RX480, Fury X, 390X, 290 to name just a few).
Yet I have been using way more than that right back to ATI days. Hell my 32 year career in IT includes well over a decade of building and repairing PCs. I also regularly use/game on a 6700XT since they released and it has been perfectly fine with not one single driver issue.

I have lost count of the number of people like you who have as many issues as you claimed. My advice was always the same. You should stick to consoles, because you clearly haven’t a clue how to build PCs.
 
I think AMD will price them around £50 less for mid range, so I'm just struggling to care. If these were even close to being competitive. AMD would have leaked some data

There has been leaks on performance, right in this very thread.

Expect 50% over current performance and you will be in the right ballpark. That would put 7950 about 10% slower than 4090 in raster. RT will be better than this gen but not as good as 4090.

So if you care about RT and fake frames then AMD 7x00 is not for you.

I think based on the leaks (that you can’t seem to find) a 7800XT will match 4080 16GB in raster but be slower in RT (which I am OK with). If it does that for a fair bit under $1k with inflation and the **** pound, then I would call that a win for AMD.
 
Not much excitement, as the vast majority don't want to risk BSOD, bad drivers, worse compatibility compared to the smooth easy out of the box experience you get with Nvidia. IMO these are the biggest reasons.

I'm saying that as someone who bought many high end AMD cards on release, more than most (Radeon VII, Vega64 Liquid, RX480, Fury X, 390X, 290 to name just a few).

Unfortunately you lost credibility long time ago

I've had 290, 580, 5700xt and 6800 and had no issues also have 3080 also had no issues with

Me and a friend at the time both bought the 290 he never had any issues either

Don't know where you get off spreading false information
 
There has been leaks on performance, right in this very thread.

Expect 50% over current performance and you will be in the right ballpark. That would put 7950 about 10% slower than 4090 in raster. RT will be better than this gen but not as good as 4090.

So if you care about RT and fake frames then AMD 7x00 is not for you.

I think based on the leaks (that you can’t seem to find) a 7800XT will match 4080 16GB in raster but be slower in RT (which I am OK with). If it does that for a fair bit under $1k with inflation and the **** pound, then I would call that a win for AMD.
AMD should match up to anything below 4090 easily as 6950XT are pretty darn fast in raster. If the next gen is 15% uplift in gaming performance and based on 4080 16GB around 50% of 4090 raster then the new top sku will beat it out easily
 
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Oh so you know that rdna3 is gonna be all these things? Can i take a lend of your crystal ball for the lottery numbers?
I predicted it last year with their inferior RT performance abd FSR so we'll see again in a few weeks.

I'm happy to place a bet that their RT performance will not match NVIDIAs.
 
I always find it a bit odd AMD getting flak for not being right on a par with Nvidia. They compete with Intel in the CPU market while providing options in the GPU market.

Now if people were arguing re competition of Nvidia CPUs vs AMD CPUs whilst also arguing which of the two companies were the best in the GPU market I'd understand.

Give me the option of a good value capable card, that's all I expect from their competition in the GPU market.

This is from a long time admirer of his stalwart GTX 1080
 
Hats of to nVidias marketing department for convincing you these are things you need. Hundreds of £s on a GPU and you still want/need upscaling.


I don't need them (except for a few special use case scenarios where DLSS is needed cos I'm struggling for FPs running triple 4K montiors).

However, NVIDIA offer them and AMD don't. I expect to have more than a £100 discount for a card with similar rasterisation but less features.

Is DLSS, DLSS3.0, the motion interpolation/frame thing and superior raytracing performance worth £100-£150? IMO yes.

If AMD manage to bridge the gap and offer better RT performance, then thats awesome.

The truth is what rasterisation wise to hit 60fps, both parties will hopefully be there or there abouts. The differentiating factor is sadly RT, where it does tank FPs.
 
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