Anyone non-panic buying?

Freakbro · 24 Feb 2023 at 14:57

Doobedoo · 24 Feb 2023 at 15:17

Freakbro · 24 Feb 2023 at 15:25

Just received this email from one of our suppliers

In recent weeks the Pork market has seen some very large price increases due to low availability of European pigs, resulting in the leg price increasing by almost 40%.

We have been monitoring the market to see if the increases could have been absorbed but the situation has worsened . It is therefore necessary for us pass on the increases temporarily until the market has improved. Any increase is not ideal especially after last years hyper inflation on food products, but this will be a common movement across the industry as of this week. These Increases will affect all Pork/ Ham/ bacon products.

*sigh* running a hospitality & catering business is just **** atm

Ahleckz · 24 Feb 2023 at 15:29

Freakbro said:
Just received this email from one of our suppliers

*sigh* running a hospitality & catering business is just **** atm

Reported for misinformation. Since Brexit, we’ve opened up new pork markets from China so European pig pricing doesn’t matter.
That’s what Liz Truss said anyway, they wouldn’t lie to us right?

Pork Markets — Liz Truss

This … ?Is a brief attempt at satire … #goons #bluebottle #Goon Show#liztruss

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Uther · 24 Feb 2023 at 15:29

Freakbro said:
Just received this email from one of our suppliers

*sigh* running a hospitality & catering business is just **** atm

Turnip is the future. This time next year Rodney...

Caracus2k · 24 Feb 2023 at 15:52

Stretch said:
Probably because Ireland is still semi-dependant on the UK for its supply chain.

I would expect if this was true that Irish news articles about their shortages would reference the UK as being part of their issue and put less emphasis on the fact that production in southern Europe and North Africa has been lower than expected due to the weather at the same time as capacity in Northern Europe for out of season production was slashed due to the energy costs.

I can't claim to have read all articles but the ones I have seen haven't mentioned the UK as being part of the problem for Ireland. Do you have a source to corroborate your claim?

Stretch · 24 Feb 2023 at 15:56

Caracus2k said:
I would expect if this was true that Irish news articles about their shortages would reference the UK as being part of their issue and put less emphasis on the fact that production in southern Europe and North Africa has been lower than expected due to the weather at the same time as capacity in Northern Europe for out of season production was slashed due to the energy costs.

I can't claim to have read all articles but the ones I have seen haven't mentioned the UK as being part of the problem for Ireland. Do you have a source to corroborate your claim?

But those shortages would affect everyone. But the UK and Ireland are disproportionately affected.

Caracus2k · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:09

Stretch said:
But those shortages would affect everyone. But the UK and Ireland are disproportionately affected.

Yes because the UK and Ireland are on a island archipelago that contain the only significant land masses in northern Europe not directly connected to mainland Europe via land or a bridge.

Because the ferries have been disrupted as well.

But if the claim that leaving the EU is a significant factor in the UK's shortages is true, as many have claimed, then we should expect Irish sources to reference the UK leaving the EU for *their*shortages aswell. To date I haven't seen any evidence of this.

ebilcake · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:28

Government needs to support farmers and increase our own production, it's only natural during shortages that other countries will focus on local supply first.

That said, I don't think it's as bad as many are making out, my local green grocer was well stocked earlier today with no limit on what you could buy, seems many just forgot they even exist, which works well for me.

Stretch · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:29

Caracus2k said:
Yes because the UK and Ireland are on a island archipelago that contain the only significant land masses in northern Europe not directly connected to mainland Europe via land or a bridge.

Because the ferries have been disrupted as well.

But if the claim that leaving the EU is a significant factor in the UK's shortages is true, as many have claimed, then we should expect Irish sources to reference the UK leaving the EU for *their*shortages aswell. To date I haven't seen any evidence of this.

I don’t remember being island archipelago being much of a problem in the past.

Why are the ferries disrupted?

Stretch · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:32

ebilcake said:
Government needs to support farmers and increase our own production, it's only natural during shortages that other countries will focus on local supply first.

Isn’t supporting farmers one of the things the EU did and one of the reasons we wanted to leave?

Introducing a UK subsidy would be absurdly.

We also need people to work to make UK farming viable/competitive over the long term.

Freakbro · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:38

Stretch said:
Isn’t supporting farmers one of the things the EU did and one of the reasons we wanted to leave?

Introducing a UK subsidy would be absurdly.

We also need people to work to make UK farming viable/competitive over the long term.

Do you remember all the wailing and nashing of teeth by them over EU farming subsidies!

It wasn't that long ago you had arch Brexiteer @thenewoc saying UK farmers should be exposed to the full force of the free market (no subsidies, no tariffs, no import quotas or restrictions) and if they couldn't compete that was tough and they should just go under.

Big brain thinking there as usual... :rolleyes:

ebilcake · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:38

Stretch said:
Isn’t supporting farmers one of the things the EU did and one of the reasons we wanted to leave?

Introducing a UK subsidy would be absurdly.

We also need people to work to make UK farming viable/competitive over the long term.

If I remember right, the conservatives pledged to help farmers and match the level of support from the EU.

They need to do more, but we know what the excuses will be, Covid, Russian invasion, energy crisis...

Doobedoo · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:39

Stretch said:
Isn’t supporting farmers one of the things the EU did and one of the reasons we wanted to leave?

Introducing a UK subsidy would be absurdly.

We also need people to work to make UK farming viable/competitive over the long term.

That’s a political issue though surely.

Freakbro · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:42

ebilcake said:
If I remember right, the conservatives pledged to help farmers and match the level of support from the EU.

And they have done the opposite, in progressively reducing the subsidies and not replacing them with anything (yet) or giving any detail on what or when the replacement will be so farmers can prepare.

ebilcake said:
They need to do more, but we know what the excuses will be, Covid, Russian invasion, energy crisis...

It'd be best to not wait for a food crisis before they do anything about it though!

Dis86 · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:44

ebilcake said:
If I remember right, the conservatives pledged to help farmers and match the level of support from the EU.

They need to do more, but we know what the excuses will be, Covid, Russian invasion, energy crisis...

They made that pledge indeed. Except haven't delivered in the slightest.

Doobedoo · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:46

Dis86 said:
They made that pledge indeed. Except haven't delivered in the slightest.

Again that’s a political issue but hardly the first or last thing a political party will have promised but ultimately fail to deliver.

Stretch · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:47

Doobedoo said:
That’s a political issue though surely.

They are political issues.

The problem is we can’t solve them without many of our politicians admitting that much of Brexit was sold on a lie. I.e. in this case, we might actually need farming subsidies to ensure our food supply, unskilled immigration is a necessary part of our economy and frictionless trade (single market) is needed to ensure we can remain an attractive place for people to do business.

Why don’t we just import our tomatoes from bongo bongo land with our really amazing new trade deal?

It’s ******* obvious why not.

adidan · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:50

I always panic buy.

Running around grabbing shopping while screaming and waving my hands around always gets me to the front of the queue.

Doobedoo · 24 Feb 2023 at 16:51

Stretch said:
They are political issues.

The problem is we can’t solve them without many of our politicians admitting that much of Brexit was sold on a lie. I.e. in this case, we might actually need farming subsidies to ensure our food supply, unskilled immigration is a necessary part of our economy and frictionless trade (single market) is needed to ensure we can remain and attractive place for people to do business.

Why don’t we just import our tomatoes from bongo bongo land with our really amazing new trade deal?

It’s ******* obvious why not.

All politics is sold on lies. What’s new?