Anyone non-panic buying?

VincentHanna said:
I thought you didn't believe in climate change?
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The phrase "adverse weather" is hardly synonymous with "climate change" now is it? Desperation there, pure desperation...

Taliking of which there seems to be a new desperation amongst those here unable to accept the referendum result, perhaps it's because the EU is, despite best efforts to hide their top level corruption, getting into a fine old mess with their suitcases of illicit cash from Qatar?
 
would be good to know who this healthy contingent are, eating year round lettuce and tomatoes , obesity is not mutually exclusive, but its statistics indicate the Mediterranean diet isn't cutting through,
you need the Sun and an outdoor living ethic, too, to make the spell work.
washed pre-packed lettuce another convenience food

Doobedoo said:
Couldn’t we or was every politician completely honest before Brexit?
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joining europe in the list of previous misdemeanors. ?

come 2024 when we bin the EU food legislation, should see supermarket food quality improvements .. eg. more fakes of european goods like pasta/parmesan/olive oil.
 
VincentHanna said:
Apples are next

www.bbc.co.uk

Kent apple farmers forced to dig up orchards over financial losses

Kent apple growers say rising costs mean they can no longer afford to continue growing the fruit.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Yep, energy price rises of the scale we are seeing currently have a very wide and profound effect on all manner of businesses, primary and secondary. Stand firm, your cohesion with the Ukrainians is worth these sacrifices, which will probably only escalate. I suspect, to coin a phrase, "You ain't seen nothing yet". Keep blaming the leaving of the EU, you have a good following of nodders. For now...
 
Chris Wilson said:
Yep, energy price rises of the scale we are seeing currently have a very wide and profound effect on all manner of businesses, primary and secondary. Stand firm, your cohesion with the Ukrainians is worth these sacrifices, which will probably only escalate. I suspect, to coin a phrase, "You ain't seen nothing yet". Keep blaming the leaving of the EU, you have a good following of nodders. For now...
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You forgot to mention immigrants . I am disapoint
 
I have been making hotpot a lot recently to beat the cost of living but substituting lamb for sausage meat.

It was costing me just 5 quid in materials for a meal for 4 but cannot get any ingredients now!

Guess I am going to have to get creative with turnips!
 
Chris Wilson said:
Yep, energy price rises of the scale we are seeing currently have a very wide and profound effect on all manner of businesses, primary and secondary.
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We have an apple tree in the garden, unless we've been somehow stealing free energy from somewhere it nevers cost us anything to let it do its thing and grow apples for us
 
Minusorange said:
We have an apple tree in the garden, unless we've been somehow stealing free energy from somewhere it nevers cost us anything to let it do its thing and grow apples for us
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Indeed. But now imagine having hundreds of apple trees, across many acres, needing mechanised harvesting. And after picking hundreds of thousands of apples you have to carefully pack them all and then transport them in various lots to different wholesalers and retailers.

To grow apples commercially with any chance of a realistic profit orchards really need to be in the south of England, as the fruit needs a lot of consistent sunshine to thrive.

Supermarkets are notoriously stingy with prices to farmers and growers, so all that plus the high energy costs we now have through alienating Russia, we have made some enterprises unprofitable and this trickles down in ways some people have not foreseen until a product is either frighteningly expensive or simply unavailable.
 
You only need to prep if it’s going to be the end of the world. These food companies know that if they hold back stock they can rise the prices or make people panic.

Same as what happened to the GPU market. All you people jumping and panicking at the slightest problem tsk tsk tsk.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
Indeed. But now imagine having hundreds of apple trees, across many acres, needing mechanised harvesting. And after picking hundreds of thousands of apples you have to carefully pack them all and then transport them in various lots to different wholesalers and retailers.

To grow apples commercially with any chance of a realistic profit orchards really need to be in the south of England, as the fruit needs a lot of consistent sunshine to thrive.

Supermarkets are notoriously stingy with prices to farmers and growers, so all that plus the high energy costs we now have through alienating Russia, we have made some enterprises unprofitable and this trickles down in ways some people have not foreseen until a product is either frighteningly expensive or simply unavailable.
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You seem to have fallen into closet Russian supporter mode again.

We did not alienate Russia at all. Russia alienated themselves by illegally invading another country, raping and murdering their civilians.
Whilst simultaneously restricting supplies of fuel in an attempt to freeze many Europeans.
I don't trust much Russia says, but that is one thing they said they were attempting to do that is probably actually real. Evidence suggests they were trying to reduce the political will of the West to support Ukraine by getting the useful idiots in the west to wring their hands about energy costs and nuclear war and how we should really maybe just keep our noses out.

Effectively writing things like that your taking a similar position to Jeremy Corbyn. Imagine that!
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
You seem to have fallen into closet Russian supporter mode again.

We did not alienate Russia at all. Russia alienated themselves by illegally invading another country, raping and murdering their civilians.
Whilst simultaneously restricting supplies of fuel in an attempt to freeze many Europeans.
I don't trust much Russia says, but that is one thing they said they were attempting to do that is probably actually real. Evidence suggests they were trying to reduce the political will of the West to support Ukraine by getting the useful idiots in the west to wring their hands about energy costs and nuclear war and how we should really maybe just keep our noses out.

Effectively writing things like that your taking a similar position to Jeremy Corbyn. Imagine that!
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Just imagine indeed. I have neither a carte blanche hatred of everything Mr. Corbyn says and does, anymore than of what Russia says and does.

I am afraid on some matters it's mainly the liberal left that take carte blanche views, with no nuance.

I know of no one other than myself perfectly aligned with all of my own views, so agreeing on some matters and disagreeing on others with various people is perfectly normal to me, is it such anathema to you as to be worthy of comment?
 
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Short of putting boots on the ground we're basically in a wartime situation. People shouldn't be too upset that they can't have a tomato in February.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Just imagine indeed. I have neither a carte blanche hatred of everything Mr. Corbyn says and does, anymore than of what Russia says and does.

I am afraid on some matters it's mainly the liberal left that take carte blanche views, with no nuance.

I know of no one other than myself perfectly aligned with all of my own views, so agreeing on some matters and disagreeing on others with various people is perfectly normal to me, is it such anathema to you as to be worthy of comment?
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Can't really comment in detail on the liberal left thing, I am liberal right. In fact I have said many times I would probably sit somewhere around where Cameron and Boris sit on the political compass.

I have to disagree though, I don't see anyone with true Liberal values (right or left) matching what you describe. I see people branded as liberal left who are left but not liberal. As if some people cannot distinguish left from liberal.

Its not really your positions in general I have issue with, in fact more than anything I just sigh with disappointment that short sightedness and selfishness is still so rife considering all that is going on in Ukraine.
I would and do sigh just as much at Corbyn as I always have for his lack of real world takes on things being complicated. On this again I feel you and he are very well aligned. However like always when the further left and futher right align in views, luckily it tends to be on things that the majority do not agree with.
But then Corbyn is very much illiberal anyway.
 
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