*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

Here is a list of all the things I've posted in this thread that I thought were worth a watch

Modern Wisdom - #064 How to build habits.
Max Lugavere - How to optimize Human nutrition
Diary of a CEO - The weight loss scientist
Diary of a CEO - Heath expert - Max lugavere
Modern wisdom - Ben Carpenter Science on best fat loss diet
Huberman Lab - Alcohol and your health
Modern Wisdom - Kelly Starrett - Fitness strategies for peak performance
Biolayne - Layne Norton - Ozempic and other weight loss drugs
Diary of a CEO - No1 Heart surgeon thoughts on cardio being a waste of time for fat loss
Modern Wisdom Short - Do calories matter
Zoe Science and Nutrition podcast - How ultra processed foods wreak havok on your body
James Smith - This is why your diet isn't working
Thomas Delaurer - What happens during 14 days of a low carb diet..

Does it honestly look like I am "believing everything he says word for word"
No.. why, because
"the things he talks about are broadly correct"

And just to check...

You do understand this guy isn't that V-Shred guy that does a bazillion adverts don't you, now he is absolutely 100% a corporate shill.
You post some quite polarizing topics at times that people will have opinions on, and on some occasions the source is a bigger issue then the content.

The one constant is that you get very defensive very quick and you make the responses pretty personal. I called you up on doing this the other day to someone else because it was out of line, and when we let things like that slide it can be misconstrued as acceptance of the behavior.

I am just not the biggest fan of TDL any longer, I brought in to some of his hype and even have the apple cider vinegar to prove it, but really the base line takeaway I learnt from his stuff was actually there is no need to buy in to the hype, and the science he was trying to sell he doesn’t truely understand himself as many more learned and respected peers (if you can call a marketing expert with no training a peer to nutrition and sports science MD’s a peer) have proven.
 
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@Syla5 - if you’ve got apple cider vinegar that needs using, I would suggest this recipe substituting the white vinegar for cider vinegar. Absolutely amazing.


Feel totally spent at the end of today. Didn’t think I had gone too low on calories, nor done a load of exercise (cycle to work notwithstanding). Going to have wine instead of dessert tonight!
 
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So, new month, new beginning again. Can't quite believe I've added 20kg (now 95kg!!!) in about six months. Time to stop the rot and get that off again with the help of NHS Couch 2 5K, Apple Fitness+ and Lions Prep.
 
So, new month, new beginning again. Can't quite believe I've added 20kg (now 95kg!!!) in about six months. Time to stop the rot and get that off again with the help of NHS Couch 2 5K, Apple Fitness+ and Lions Prep.
Good luck, you gotta banish the crap from being bought, much easier to stay on track if its not in the house, the cravings go away eventually and if you have an perfect on plan week then no issue with having pizza and icecream (or whatever) at the weekend.
took a while for me to get this sunk into my old dear, you won't beat it if you effectively have "a feeder" as a partner, or one who isn't supportive of your goals.

edit to add..... if you have an overweight partner you also have a psychological battle on your hands because if she's not on board with you and you start to make improvements, it'll put something in front of her face she might not want to deal with (cold reality of being large, something that requires effort to fix and possibly worse self image and self worth stuff... be conscious of that too...)
 
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Having a bit of a stall at the moment. Stuck just below 90kg, the magic 88kg is eluding me. Couple of bigger weekends haven’t helped, but nothing too outrageous. Managed to get to the gym two days on the bounce this week which might help give me the push I need. Hope everyone is getting on ok!
 
I still have more gut than I like, which I'd like to lose by the end of the year, but I think I'm going to just aim at maintaining the current loss over the next few months and think about having another push later in the year.

Checking back in on this, 3 months later. I did well at maintaining my weight around the 85kg mark right up until Easter when I indulged in a festival of drink, food, and chocolate and put on a couple of kilos in about a week. This hasn't been helped by hurting my knee and not being able to get out running for over a month now. A few days ago I did a 68 hour fast to shed that weight and I'm back down to 85kg again - happy with that, but not an ideal approach for the longer term. I'm going to carry on trying to maintain for the next month and then try another weight loss push in June.
 
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Checking back in on this, 3 months later. I did well at maintaining my weight around the 85kg mark right up until Easter when I indulged in a festival of drink, food, and chocolate and put on a couple of kilos in about a week. This hasn't been helped by hurting my knee and not being able to get out running for over a month now. A few days ago I did a 68 hour fast to shed that weight and I'm back down to 85kg again - happy with that, but not an ideal approach for the longer term. I'm going to carry on trying to maintain for the next month and then try another weight loss push in June.

Maintenance is good! Easter was tough, I re-discovered my love for chocolate in a big way! What’s your long term goal? Body fat/overall weight/running distance?
 
Hope everyone is getting on ok!
Not too bad here, 2kg under my initial goal weight, initially I thought this was going to be hard to reach but somethings different inside now, I have a different outlook on life over all, long term goals are far more important and its all the little steps that are easy to make, the ones you don't even notice you've taken, until you turn round and realise you've "walked to Rome" so yea, while bank holidays, automotive bills and and covid have all got in the way the last few weeks, we're still on the right path to where I want to go, so its all gravy...
everyone at work seemed to notice my thin ness today on my first day back in a while, so thats good.
Bonus... Whoop 4.0 arrived today too so i'll be fiddling with that tonight As well.
 
What’s your long term goal? Body fat/overall weight/running distance?

My long term goal weight wise is mirror-based rather than either of those: I just want to lose the gut and keep it off - I'm a naturally pretty stringy guy so that's probably going to be somewhere around 75kg but I'm not setting myself arbitrary targets for the long term, if I get to 80kg and that feels good I'll stick there, if I get to 75kg and still feel I've got more fat than I'd like then I'll push for more losses. I don't really run for distance, more because I want to develop and maintain a decent level of physical fitness but... I'd like to be able to run from my house to the coast, along past the dyke, and back again which is about 12 or 13km.

My wife runs marathon - we're off to Heligoland for one this weekend - and I really don't want to get into the kind of lifestyle training that she does.
 
@Mr Jack - I can’t imagine much worse than running a marathon!! Sounds like you’re really realistic. Only reason I ask is that I had a “mirror”/body fat based goal and tried to achieve it through going to the gym. What I needed to do was use the scales to keep a track of progress and sort my diet out and be strict with it… well, strictish.

My concern now is that even if I get to my goal, I’m not going to have my “mirror” physique, but that might not be realistic without serious training on top of my diet sort out. I think I need a maintenance period once I’m comfortably at my goal weight.
 
Sounds like you’re really realistic. Only reason I ask is that I had a “mirror”/body fat based goal and tried to achieve it through going to the gym. What I needed to do was use the scales to keep a track of progress and sort my diet out and be strict with it… well, strictish.

Yeah, I don't think you can use the mirror for tracking. I weigh myself pretty regularly for maintenance and when I'm actually trying to lose weight I weigh myself everyday (well, except when I forget :p). I was absolutely waif thin when I was young - 6' 3" and 9 stone when I started uni - and that's absolutely not something I look to get back to. Where the weight that is the happy medium between then and now lies I don't know, so I don't want to pick an arbitrary number of kgs and say that's the goal.

My concern now is that even if I get to my goal, I’m not going to have my “mirror” physique, but that might not be realistic without serious training on top of my diet sort out. I think I need a maintenance period once I’m comfortably at my goal weight.

Yeah, I'm never going to have a toned and ripped physique. I'm okay with that, I'm happy just getting rid of the flab and keeping it off. It's not that I've ever got that fat just years of eating a bit much and exercising a bit little have added up.
 
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Nom noms today. Hazelnut dukkah crusted Salmon, herb potatoes, morrocan sauce and carrots.
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This has been bugging me since the first meal - how do you prepare the sauce? The instructions suggest cooking it for 3 minutes in the pot in the pack but that seems like it would boil and explode everywhere. I’ve been taking it out and cooking it for 1 minute on its own. But now I’m wondering if you should pour it all over the dish cold and then heat everything for 3 minutes.
 
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This has been bugging me since the first meal - how do you prepare the sauce? The instructions suggest cooking it for 3 minutes in the pot in the pack but that seems like it would boil and explode everywhere. I’ve been taking it out and cooking it for 1 minute on its own. But now I’m wondering if you should pour it all over the dish cold and then heat everything for 3 minutes.
Whichever you find easiest/comes out the nicest. I can't imagine it matters apart from personal taste.
 
I add 30 secs extra to every dish, as I've noticed both wirks and my own 900w micro isn't quite enough.
I put this down to when they prepped the meals, they did this from room temp and mine come straight from the fridge..

on the sauce front, I've just left it in the package and yea it pops the lid open usually and spews a bit into the dish, certainly doesn't boil it dry or anything weird. I pour it over the rest of the food once its had a min standing afterwards.
 
My journey so far and where I’m at now, the gain is intentional, I’m closing in on the end of a bulk phase and will begin cutting again at the start of June. Going to be interesting to see how the pre bull and post cut 2 pics compare.
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