*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

Ahh good old TDL, throw enough scientific words in to your explanation's and minions will follow. I initially really enjoyed his videos and his information and thought it made great sense, until i really looked in to it and paid attention to other experts views and basically TDL is just very good at marketing his content vs the actual quality of what he's purveying.
 
I'm done with nit picking about stuff I post

Are you really telling me you cannot see the irony behind TDL making videos that literally are defending his entire business model? look in to the guy a little more and about the science he talks about before believing it word for word.



He is exceptionally good at marketing and the things he talks about are broadly correct, but he really picks up the buzz topics and sells them well.

I’m not nit picking your posts apart, if you actually paid attention I clearly said I used to watch and enjoy his stuff until I looked in to it further and understood it better for what it was.
 
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Here is a list of all the things I've posted in this thread that I thought were worth a watch

Modern Wisdom - #064 How to build habits.
Max Lugavere - How to optimize Human nutrition
Diary of a CEO - The weight loss scientist
Diary of a CEO - Heath expert - Max lugavere
Modern wisdom - Ben Carpenter Science on best fat loss diet
Huberman Lab - Alcohol and your health
Modern Wisdom - Kelly Starrett - Fitness strategies for peak performance
Biolayne - Layne Norton - Ozempic and other weight loss drugs
Diary of a CEO - No1 Heart surgeon thoughts on cardio being a waste of time for fat loss
Modern Wisdom Short - Do calories matter
Zoe Science and Nutrition podcast - How ultra processed foods wreak havok on your body
James Smith - This is why your diet isn't working
Thomas Delaurer - What happens during 14 days of a low carb diet..

Does it honestly look like I am "believing everything he says word for word"
No.. why, because
"the things he talks about are broadly correct"

And just to check...

You do understand this guy isn't that V-Shred guy that does a bazillion adverts don't you, now he is absolutely 100% a corporate shill.
 
Here is a list of all the things I've posted in this thread that I thought were worth a watch

Modern Wisdom - #064 How to build habits.
Max Lugavere - How to optimize Human nutrition
Diary of a CEO - The weight loss scientist
Diary of a CEO - Heath expert - Max lugavere
Modern wisdom - Ben Carpenter Science on best fat loss diet
Huberman Lab - Alcohol and your health
Modern Wisdom - Kelly Starrett - Fitness strategies for peak performance
Biolayne - Layne Norton - Ozempic and other weight loss drugs
Diary of a CEO - No1 Heart surgeon thoughts on cardio being a waste of time for fat loss
Modern Wisdom Short - Do calories matter
Zoe Science and Nutrition podcast - How ultra processed foods wreak havok on your body
James Smith - This is why your diet isn't working
Thomas Delaurer - What happens during 14 days of a low carb diet..

Does it honestly look like I am "believing everything he says word for word"
No.. why, because
"the things he talks about are broadly correct"

And just to check...

You do understand this guy isn't that V-Shred guy that does a bazillion adverts don't you, now he is absolutely 100% a corporate shill.
You post some quite polarizing topics at times that people will have opinions on, and on some occasions the source is a bigger issue then the content.

The one constant is that you get very defensive very quick and you make the responses pretty personal. I called you up on doing this the other day to someone else because it was out of line, and when we let things like that slide it can be misconstrued as acceptance of the behavior.

I am just not the biggest fan of TDL any longer, I brought in to some of his hype and even have the apple cider vinegar to prove it, but really the base line takeaway I learnt from his stuff was actually there is no need to buy in to the hype, and the science he was trying to sell he doesn’t truely understand himself as many more learned and respected peers (if you can call a marketing expert with no training a peer to nutrition and sports science MD’s a peer) have proven.
 
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@Syla5 - if you’ve got apple cider vinegar that needs using, I would suggest this recipe substituting the white vinegar for cider vinegar. Absolutely amazing.


Feel totally spent at the end of today. Didn’t think I had gone too low on calories, nor done a load of exercise (cycle to work notwithstanding). Going to have wine instead of dessert tonight!
 
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So, new month, new beginning again. Can't quite believe I've added 20kg (now 95kg!!!) in about six months. Time to stop the rot and get that off again with the help of NHS Couch 2 5K, Apple Fitness+ and Lions Prep.
 
So, new month, new beginning again. Can't quite believe I've added 20kg (now 95kg!!!) in about six months. Time to stop the rot and get that off again with the help of NHS Couch 2 5K, Apple Fitness+ and Lions Prep.
Good luck, you gotta banish the crap from being bought, much easier to stay on track if its not in the house, the cravings go away eventually and if you have an perfect on plan week then no issue with having pizza and icecream (or whatever) at the weekend.
took a while for me to get this sunk into my old dear, you won't beat it if you effectively have "a feeder" as a partner, or one who isn't supportive of your goals.

edit to add..... if you have an overweight partner you also have a psychological battle on your hands because if she's not on board with you and you start to make improvements, it'll put something in front of her face she might not want to deal with (cold reality of being large, something that requires effort to fix and possibly worse self image and self worth stuff... be conscious of that too...)
 
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Having a bit of a stall at the moment. Stuck just below 90kg, the magic 88kg is eluding me. Couple of bigger weekends haven’t helped, but nothing too outrageous. Managed to get to the gym two days on the bounce this week which might help give me the push I need. Hope everyone is getting on ok!
 
I still have more gut than I like, which I'd like to lose by the end of the year, but I think I'm going to just aim at maintaining the current loss over the next few months and think about having another push later in the year.

Checking back in on this, 3 months later. I did well at maintaining my weight around the 85kg mark right up until Easter when I indulged in a festival of drink, food, and chocolate and put on a couple of kilos in about a week. This hasn't been helped by hurting my knee and not being able to get out running for over a month now. A few days ago I did a 68 hour fast to shed that weight and I'm back down to 85kg again - happy with that, but not an ideal approach for the longer term. I'm going to carry on trying to maintain for the next month and then try another weight loss push in June.
 
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Checking back in on this, 3 months later. I did well at maintaining my weight around the 85kg mark right up until Easter when I indulged in a festival of drink, food, and chocolate and put on a couple of kilos in about a week. This hasn't been helped by hurting my knee and not being able to get out running for over a month now. A few days ago I did a 68 hour fast to shed that weight and I'm back down to 85kg again - happy with that, but not an ideal approach for the longer term. I'm going to carry on trying to maintain for the next month and then try another weight loss push in June.

Maintenance is good! Easter was tough, I re-discovered my love for chocolate in a big way! What’s your long term goal? Body fat/overall weight/running distance?
 
Hope everyone is getting on ok!
Not too bad here, 2kg under my initial goal weight, initially I thought this was going to be hard to reach but somethings different inside now, I have a different outlook on life over all, long term goals are far more important and its all the little steps that are easy to make, the ones you don't even notice you've taken, until you turn round and realise you've "walked to Rome" so yea, while bank holidays, automotive bills and and covid have all got in the way the last few weeks, we're still on the right path to where I want to go, so its all gravy...
everyone at work seemed to notice my thin ness today on my first day back in a while, so thats good.
Bonus... Whoop 4.0 arrived today too so i'll be fiddling with that tonight As well.
 
What’s your long term goal? Body fat/overall weight/running distance?

My long term goal weight wise is mirror-based rather than either of those: I just want to lose the gut and keep it off - I'm a naturally pretty stringy guy so that's probably going to be somewhere around 75kg but I'm not setting myself arbitrary targets for the long term, if I get to 80kg and that feels good I'll stick there, if I get to 75kg and still feel I've got more fat than I'd like then I'll push for more losses. I don't really run for distance, more because I want to develop and maintain a decent level of physical fitness but... I'd like to be able to run from my house to the coast, along past the dyke, and back again which is about 12 or 13km.

My wife runs marathon - we're off to Heligoland for one this weekend - and I really don't want to get into the kind of lifestyle training that she does.
 
@Mr Jack - I can’t imagine much worse than running a marathon!! Sounds like you’re really realistic. Only reason I ask is that I had a “mirror”/body fat based goal and tried to achieve it through going to the gym. What I needed to do was use the scales to keep a track of progress and sort my diet out and be strict with it… well, strictish.

My concern now is that even if I get to my goal, I’m not going to have my “mirror” physique, but that might not be realistic without serious training on top of my diet sort out. I think I need a maintenance period once I’m comfortably at my goal weight.
 
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