Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Yup, camera's are everywhere, but don't be a moron.

I'd also say ultimately it helps Ukraine as more people see the reality of what they are dealing with first hand so to speak.

EDIT: Not to say people shouldn't be concerned and careful about operational security but IMO there is some complexity to the situation.
 
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A mic of CIWS and SeaRam is better - Iron Dome works well, im sure the US would love to get Sea Ram or a land based version into Kyiv to test it as defence for the PAC battery

The SeaRam has the same mounting footprint and power requirements as the Phalanx, so it shouldn't be that difficult to mount onto the trucks used for CIWS.
 
Our air defence capabilities have been weird for awhile - I think too much dependence is on having control of the skies and being able to put up aircraft to deal with any threat including potentially ballistic missile defence. We've got some odd very powerful but not really joined up capabilities with lots of very awkward gaps ranging from stuff like the Stormer through to the systems on the Type 45s.
 
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Yes that would be the primary way to locate. Unlike other parts of their military capabilities, their Electronic Warfare capabilities are actually very capable.
If you know the operating frequencies of a radar system its extremely easy to track a radiating platform. There are ways to mitigate being located. However, in the end every time you radiate especially with a radar system as powerful as these systems use, you are literally a massive beacon in the dark. Any attempt to mask this signature will likely degrade the capability of the radar itself.

What I think Russia are doing with these extended attacks is to force Ukraine to radiate these platforms for long periods of time, they will likely only turn them on at last safe moment when there is intelligence to suggest an incoming attack, hence you see all the NATO air assets up prior to attacks. In doing this they will be able to accurately identify the location of the tracking radars. One way to get around this is by radiating for very short periods of time bewteen multiple systems, its a method we call blinking. Its really only going to be effective on a mobile system though. and from what I've seen I dont think Patriot is very mobile.

One other potential way of locating these Patriot battery's is through HUMINT, people/agents on the ground physically locating the equipment. Though I think this is a lot more difficult and risky these days, may have been easier prior to the full scale invasion, not nearly as easy these days.
Isn't the whole point to shoot and scoot, it seems to me they were either complacent and thought they were safe or just to slow at the scoot part.
 
Easily the most based thing I've seen all week, and I have a good eye for based.

Russia or at least Putin wont care a bit about the missiles used as after all they are fired inside Ukraine and ultimately only doing damage to Ukrainian territory, Putin doesn't care about the human lives they will take. .

If the missiles start hitting inside Russian territory then its a different story, time for Ukraine to be free of this stupid rule and decimate parts of Russia.

This war will end quicker if Russians start to suffer not just the military.
 
The US must be loving getting to field test Patriot against Russian munitions. You couldn't ask for a better opportunity.

Yep. This is the best proxy war NATO could have asked for.

They get to test their stuff out in the field against arguably one of their biggest potential foes. They also get to destroy a massive chunk of their army by proxy too.

Putin is an idiot.
 
Isn't the whole point to shoot and scoot, it seems to me they were either complacent and thought they were safe or just to slow at the scoot part.
Yeah a patriot setup aint scooting nowhere! From what I can gather from searching online, its a reasonably quick setup time ~1hr? I'd imagine it would be in that ballpark to pack up as well.
1 patriot Bty consists of multiple vehicles and trailers including launchers, radars, antennas, command module, power module and more. Yes it is designed to be "mobile" in the sense it is has wheels and can be moved around self sufficiently, its not a permanent installation. However, it sure aint mobile in the sense of a Stormer HVM, a Buk or Pantsir.
 
Yep. This is the best proxy war NATO could have asked for.

They get to test their stuff out in the field against arguably one of their biggest potential foes. They also get to destroy a massive chunk of their army by proxy too.

Putin is an idiot.

Would dearly love to see a company of old Chieftain mk 11`s out there
 
Yep. This is the best proxy war NATO could have asked for.

They get to test their stuff out in the field against arguably one of their biggest potential foes. They also get to destroy a massive chunk of their army by proxy too.

Putin is an idiot.
They’ve not even used their best stuff. Most of it is old stuff nearing its use by date. Net result the Russian military is degraded by at least 50% for 5% of NATO annual defense budget.. Bargain
 
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They’ve not even used their best stuff. Most of it is old stuff nearing its use by date. Net result the Russian military is degraded by at least 50% for 5% of NATO annual defense budget.. Bargain

USA sent PAC3 CRI - so yes it is the latest kit. Russia committed ite best stuff last year
 
Nearly 200,000 mothers and fathers are suffering, somewhere.
Suffering privately, yes, that's not the suffering I'm talking about.

Time to hit the Government buildings, anywhere there is an official presence.

I'm not for hitting civillians, just government targets all over Russia.

And yes if their is any workers in the buildings then yes they are collateral damage.

I'm sure it wouldn't take long before they refuse to go to work for fear of being bombed.

Russia isn't suffering anywhere near the scale Ukraine has not even close.

This war needs to be on their doorstep before they step in to stop it.
 
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