The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Roar87 said:
Are you arguing with yourself? Has anyone said advertisers are forced to pay Twitter? Do you think you've got some little catch 22 about free speech? There's zero logic in your post. Also this a post you haven't even thought of yourself, you saw someone else express this opinion and repeated it because you don't have any original thoughts or arguments of your own. You copy and paste your views.
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If advertisers aren't forced to pay Twitter, why is he having such a man-baby meltdown over them leaving the platform? Free market economy, no?
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
I think from most accounts its pretty much in limbo
The youngsters dont really use it, but the same oldies carry on

Metas advatage is they offer something targetted at all the demographics in effect

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Facebook surpasses 3 billion monthly active users | TechCrunch

Wait, people still use Facebook? Let alone 3 billion of them?
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My daughter just turned 13 and has had no interest in joining Facebook. TBH neither me nor her mum are massive users, but it does seem to be something that age largely ignore from her friend group and that of my 4 nieces and nephews.
 
Minusorange said:
It does make sense, he's going through a mid life crisis or he's just a petulant man baby who absolutely must have his own way
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Of course he must have his own way. Me too. This is how you should aspire to live, according to your own principles. You should be the master of your own kingdom, it's an important philosophy. A lot of you are subservient in so many ways that you just don't get it.

Minusorange said:
As for his success, what has he actually achieved since taking over Twitter apart from showing the world what type of person he really is ?
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This is a silly question. All of his companies are doing fantastic things. He's started his own AI language model for one though.
 
Roar87 said:
Are you arguing with yourself? Has anyone said advertisers are forced to pay Twitter?
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Why does he think he is being blackmailed then? Why does he say that it will be the advertisers that will kill the company? If you have a company that is unable to find buyer's for what it is selling, why is it the fault of the people not buying it?

You appear to back him on every single thing he says so i would be interested to hear what you think about these statements from him.
 
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Penfold101 said:
If advertisers aren't forced to pay Twitter, why is he having such a man-baby meltdown over them leaving the platform? Free market economy, no?
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They left because a group of people set up a contrived experiment to mislead them. How don't you get that? I mean you're a reasonably intelligent person, it has been explained that a group set up an account with the intention of misleading advertisers. No one has said they don't have the RIGHT to leave or questioned the free market. If someone invented evidence that someones wife were cheating on them, they'd have the right to leave, it doesn't make the decision correct. The fact I have to explain these basics just says to me the people debating these points don't really understand them.
 
The clarion call of the entitled man-baby "Freedom means I must be allowed to whatever I want without any consequences to the effects that my actions have on other people"
 
Roar87 said:
They left because a group of people set up a contrived experiment to mislead them. How don't you get that? I mean you're a reasonably intelligent person, it has been explained that a group set up an account with the intention of misleading advertisers. No one has said they don't have the RIGHT to leave or questioned the free market. If someone invented evidence that someones wife were cheating on them, they'd have the right to leave, it doesn't make the decision correct. The fact I have to explain these basics just says to me the people debating these points don't really understand them.
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And Elon's reaction is to act like a manbaby instead of an adult? I think they'd want to leave based purely on that alone, regardless of anything else going on with the platform...
 
Roar87 said:
They left because a group of people set up a contrived experiment to mislead them. How don't you get that? I mean you're a reasonably intelligent person, it has been explained that a group set up an account with the intention of misleading advertisers. No one has said they don't have the RIGHT to leave or questioned the free market. If someone invented evidence that someones wife were cheating on them, they'd have the right to leave, it doesn't make the decision correct. The fact I have to explain these basics just says to me the people debating these points don't really understand them.
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What about the previous 50% of lost revenue?

Its been explained to you over and over, that is what investigative journalism does. The fact you keep misrepresenting it says more about a closed mind than someone who understands or cares to find out how these things work.
 
Roar87 said:
This guy thinks the latest Starship launch was a failure. The media love people like you, the kind who just read a headline.
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www.businessinsider.com

SpaceX's Starship rocket exploded again. Elon Musk's Mars dreams remain grounded, for now.

SpaceX's Starship-Super Heavy is the world's most powerful rocket. So far that hasn't gotten it to space, but it's made two spectacular explosions.
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Oh sorry, I didn't know it was supposed to blow up. That's why elon looks so happy in the photo, silly me...

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platinum87 said:
All well and good saying that but, prior to elon musk, buying shares of twitter is one of the worst things you can do.

Trying your luck at a casino would be better, replying to emails from Nigerian princes would be better.

So when you criticize musk know that, no matter what he does, it cannot be worse to twitter prior to musk, where the longer you are a shareholder, the higher the chance of loosing money is.
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Did the the old management running it manage to lose 3/4 of its value? That is what has happened since he bought it and it doesn't look like it will be rising any time soon.
 
Apex said:
www.businessinsider.com

SpaceX's Starship rocket exploded again. Elon Musk's Mars dreams remain grounded, for now.

SpaceX's Starship-Super Heavy is the world's most powerful rocket. So far that hasn't gotten it to space, but it's made two spectacular explosions.
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Oh sorry, I didn't know it was supposed to blow up. That's why elon looks so happy in the photo, silly me...

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These exploding Starships are not necessarily failures in Musk's eyes. Unlike NASA or legacy aerospace firms, SpaceX's testing philosophy is to build it, fly it, fix any problems that arise, and fly it again. That's allowed the company to move quickly compared to its competitors.
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These are test launches, they are essentially done with the expectation they could and likely will explode. They then take the data and make adjustments. It's essentially a system of trial and error. You've just proved to me you're only capable of reading a headline, you probably enjoy Marvel and DC movies as well I bet.
 
Apex said:
www.businessinsider.com

SpaceX's Starship rocket exploded again. Elon Musk's Mars dreams remain grounded, for now.

SpaceX's Starship-Super Heavy is the world's most powerful rocket. So far that hasn't gotten it to space, but it's made two spectacular explosions.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com

Oh sorry, I didn't know it was supposed to blow up. That's why elon looks so happy in the photo, silly me...

:cry:
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Well it wasnt supposed to nuke itself, but it was partially expected because thats been Musks MO.
Hes more than happy to see things go wrong, and then fix them than the historic space "system" of glacial pace with everything gone over and over.
 
Roar87 said:
These are test launches, they are essentially done with the expectation they could and likely will explode. They then take the data and make adjustments. It's essentially a system of trial and error. You've just proved to me you're only capable of reading a headline, you probably enjoy Marvel and DC movies as well I bet.
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Nice spin, it wasn't meant to explode, but it did. Marvel and DC? lmao they're awful now, you probably have an Andrew Tate body pillow.
 
Mr Jack said:
SpaceX seems to be operating on a similar philosophy to OceanGate.
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Few differences though.
1) They are unmanned so apart from bombing towns 5 miles away with the remains of the launchpad there is limited risk to human life unlike Oceangate
2) Musk has to keep within a load of regulations. After April (iirc) he had to fix a load of the problems to be re-licenced to carry on. So there has to be a balance between not caring about what happens and making progress.
 
Roar87 said:
This guy thinks the latest Starship launch was a failure. The media love people like you, the kind who just read a headline.
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It was a partial success and a partial failure. All the engines worked up to hot staging. Starship managed to successfully separate but hot staging destroyed the booster. Starship didn't make it to orbit, it lost control and was automatically destroyed. So there were some successes but also failures. SpaceX is still years away from being able to fulfil their contract to NASA for the Moon missions.
 
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