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GPU Prices Suck. This Is What They SHOULD Have Cost

Quartz said:
According to the Steam hardware survey, 3.5% of gamers game at 4k. That doesn't sound like a lot but remember that that's still 3.5% of 120 million users, so over 4 million gamers, and that's just those on Steam.
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120 million is very outdated that number is 170m+ now monthly active users. PC gaming has experienced explosive growth the past few years. Don't let this forum with it's bitter aging community tell you otherwise.

PC gaming like a blackhole has sucked everyone in, killed the Xbox console and forced Sony to cut it's expectations with a declining PSN userbase and change it's strategy regarding exclusives for the first time in it's history.

Among all this some people are still hoping GPU prices to go down to levels when the PC gaming community was a fraction of it's current size :rolleyes:
 
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I've been gaming at 4k since the 7990 days, though it running out of vram was an issue in bf4 on some occasions.
 
DampCat said:
8800GT was the last card that offered genuine value and I will die on this hill. It's been down hill since then.
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What if I told you my R9 290 bios unlocked to full fat 290X for £313! :eek:

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How much was a Titan;) you ask?:o


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But wait, there's more, I then won:eek: an ASUS 290X DCUII to run CrossFire!:D

Both went AC Extreme custom cooled and clocked like champs!:)

@Gerard

Titan started the ball rolling, GPU Prices Suck. This Is What They SHOULD Have Cost ,this is why GPU Prices suck, Nv have been increasing ever since and here we are.
 
tommybhoy said:
What if I told you my R9 290 bios unlocked to full fat 290X for £313! :eek:

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How much was a Titan;) you ask?:o


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But wait, there's more, I then won:eek: an ASUS 290X DCUII to run CrossFire!:D

Both went AC Extreme custom cooled and clocked like champs!:)

@Gerard

Titan started the ball rolling, GPU Prices Suck. This Is What They SHOULD Have Cost ,this is why GPU Prices suck, Nv have been increasing ever since and here we are.
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290X wasn't slightly faster than the Titan - on release across a broad range of games it was 9% slower than the Titan/780Ti and 7.5% slower than my 780GHz edition, it was nearly 2 years until the 290X started to pull ahead of those cards with driver updates.

I had a friend with a 290X Tri-X and a better CPU than I had, and it was months after release until he was matching the 780GHz for performance.
 
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Gerard said:
Doesn't really matter if the complexity of the card is different or not, it's expected to be more complex these days as more or less 20 years have passed and obviously tech has moved on, what was high end then can be compared to what is high end now, it just shows how things have evolved.

My post was more about people's excitement levels for 2 games and people buying cards to power them, games these days lack that 'must have' hook that both those games had. That excitement level from 2004 rarely comes around anymore because of the 'ship it now, finish it later' publisher mentality which, while it existed in 2004, was nowhere near as prevalent as it is today.

As for pricing, we're already way past the point of stupid.
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For games it depends. A backlog of nice games is also a good reason to upgrade. Don't need to be new.
Rroff said:
290X wasn't slightly faster than the Titan - on release across a broad range of games it was 9% slower than the Titan/780Ti and 7.5% slower than my 780GHz edition, it was nearly 2 years until the 290X started to pull ahead of those cards with driver updates.

I had a friend with a 290X Tri-X and a better CPU than I had, and it was months after release until he was matching the 780GHz for performance.
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As per TPU it was about equal https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-r9-290x/27.html

Depends on which mode you'd test.
 
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Quartz said:
According to the Steam hardware survey, 3.5% of gamers game at 4k. That doesn't sound like a lot but remember that that's still 3.5% of 120 million users, so over 4 million gamers, and that's just those on Steam.
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I wonder what the percentage is for people who pay full price for games at release.

Purgatory said:

GPU Prices Suck. This Is What They SHOULD Have Cost​

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My main thought on the HW-U video is that people voted that 'reasonable' is to expect a doubling of performance over 3 generations now. Where as my 'old' (ish) yardstick has been a 40% per generation. Which is 96% compounded over 2 gens.

And people on this forum have regularly set their expectations to Pascal and earlier decades of 50%. Then you had Ampere which gave > 50%, but threw power constraints out of the window.

So I was a bit surprised by their survey results on their 30% gain now per gen expectations. Though I do feel that this is what we are going to get - or worse - now going forward.
 
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Rroff said:
290X wasn't slightly faster than the Titan - on release across a broad range of games it was 9% slower than the Titan/780Ti and 7.5% slower than my 780GHz edition, it was nearly 2 years until the 290X started to pull ahead of those cards with driver updates.

I had a friend with a 290X Tri-X and a better CPU than I had, and it was months after release until he was matching the 780GHz for performance.
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The 780Ti was released to reclaim top spot from 290X therefore was faster than the Titan too.


However 780 Ti didn't last too long as it got gimped with 3Gb vram because that's what NV done then and still does to this day, they more or less make sure they don't last long=can't run the latest max AA/ textures of the following gen releases.

Aka W3 meltdown when the 9 series replaced them with 4Gb 970s, oh wait they couldn't use the full 4Gb at full speed.

My unlocked 290(X) was faster than the 290X DCUII it was paired with as it was under custom cooling and still faster when it went AC Extreme too.

Gregster even blew up his Titan with custom bios trying to keep up with good 290Xs.


The AC Extreme coolers were bought for 5870s then went on 6950 unlocked to 6970s oc'd +25% to 1Ghz :eek: , then onto 7950's on custom bios @1.2Ghz, then onto 290Xs, some of those GPUs used in CrossFire systems were as much a golden sample as your GHz 780 was.

Still got a few of them, kept one of the 5870's and 6950>70's they were that good.
 
tommybhoy said:
The 780Ti was released to reclaim top spot from 290X therefore was faster than the Titan too.


However 780 Ti didn't last too long as it got gimped with 3Gb vram because that's what NV done then and still does to this day, they more or less make sure they don't last long=can't run the latest max AA/ textures of the following gen releases.

Aka W3 meltdown when the 9 series replaced them with 4Gb 970s, oh wait they couldn't use the full 4Gb at full speed.

My unlocked 290(X) was faster than the 290X DCUII it was paired with as it was under custom cooling and still faster when it went AC Extreme too.

Gregster even blew up his Titan with custom bios trying to keep up with good 290Xs.


The AC Extreme coolers were bought for 5870s then went on 6950 unlocked to 6970s oc'd +25% to 1Ghz :eek: , then onto 7950's on custom bios @1.2Ghz, then onto 290Xs, some of those GPUs used in CrossFire systems were as much a golden sample as your GHz 780 was.

Still got a few of them, kept one of the 5870's and 6950>70's they were that good.
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I was thinking of Titan Black.
 
MrMarvelous said:
I'm eyeing up either a PS5 Slim or a PS5 Pro in the future.

Cannot justify paying current prices for once component in an entire PC.

No idea why people still moan - just don't buy.
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I'm eyeing up a PS6 and a next-gen handheld instead a new GPU.

I didn't think I'd be looking at getting back into consoles, but there we are.
 
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