Star Trek general discussion (series, films, rumours)
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Quite impressive work. Must take ages to film and edit. Incredible end results. The raw footage at the end must be very, very close to how the original series and early films were doing the external ship views? On the second video, the creator put a comment answering peoples' questions about his budget! It's incredibly time consuming work he's doing, for free, in what I assume is his own time.
Every time I watch picard season 3 I notice more and more things that make me scratch my head, such as:
Since when did a ship under cloak need to decloak to transport people up? In trek 3 they manage to bring the Klingon commander up while cloaked, and I'm sure other eps of tng or ds9 have people cloak beaming.
Why does the Titan seemingly not have the ability to warp while cloaked? They have to warp in then cloak, which renders it pretty pointless as they'll be detected warping in. Trek 5 showed a bird of prey cloak while in warp, and it was a thing in ds9, tng etc.
Why are the intrepids torpedoes so damn slow? A sloth could evade them.
Yes all the above are things that are obviously done for plot convenience and dramatic effect (though the needing to decloak to warp seems an oversight). Just the more I watch it more little things pop out.
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None of it makes any sense theres the whole changelings-are-the-enemy and we go through a whole lot of endless back and forth between Picard's crew and the other then at a predetermined point that plotline is simply ditched in favour of oh its all about Data-cum-Lore but no, big twist (not) it was the Borg all along. How to string along as many past friends and foes without any real thought as to how they relate but hey its a greatest hits medley. Whoop de do.
Season 1 was the best and closest to TNG a reflection on what it is to be human we are more than simply intelligence and does sentience require biology and to carry on an existing theme can machine intelligence be considered life? It could almost be topical with the recent trend towards AI as well as the warning that entails. Season 2 was ok, not great, its as if they decided well that was far to cerebral so lets have some wizz bang boom action and car chases and not a lot of story most of it disconnected and jumbled, and 3 was well, just tiresome.
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The changling's being involved because starfleet didn't give them the cure was a bit odd as the last scene we see of Odo is him entering the link and starting to heal it, so the cure wasn't needed.
Still I enjoyed it
Found this interesting, a demo reel (pretty degraded footage) of some fx shots for TMP, some of which never made it into the final cut. It shows the Klingon K'tingas battling V'ger and a lot more photons were fired. It also appears to show one of the ships shields seemingly being able to resist the "whiplash bolts" (apparently that's what they're called) fired by V'ger much like the Enterprise did later in the movie. Also has a little sequence where the retreating K'tinga fires 2 aft torpedo's at the whiplash bolt and it seems to detonate it prematurely as the bolt explodes behind the ship and absorbs some of the K'tinga and stops mid way up the warp nacelles. Also has a sequence of the Epsilon 9 station being absorbed\destroyed (done with a tesla coil).
This guy did a remake of the unused footage put back into the movie.
Just have to mention, how good is the TMP photon sound from the K'tingas? Makes it sound powerful, as opposed to later series that have turned it into a dinky little sound effect.
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Had a bit of a Sir Patrick Stewart fest last night, watched stuff on Youtube, the Extras episode, Graham Norton clips. He is such a fantastic man. Highly recommend his Making It So: A Memoir book it gives you new insights into Sir Patrick from growing up to later in life.
Dont expect a lot about Star Trek but its a worthy read.
Dont expect a lot about Star Trek but its a worthy read.
Just a bit from me. I finally got round to watching lower decks properly over the past few weeks and tbh I actually really enjoyed it.
I would definitely describe it as Rick and Morty's federation Star Trek career tour.
So it kinda works by scratching both of my itches.
It starts out a bit annoying but I certainly warmed to the pretty cliche characters but it's fine.
It almost feels like the guys that did this show know more about Star Trek than any of the recent other shows.
Anyway I watched it... Well done efour.
I would definitely describe it as Rick and Morty's federation Star Trek career tour.
So it kinda works by scratching both of my itches.
It starts out a bit annoying but I certainly warmed to the pretty cliche characters but it's fine.
It almost feels like the guys that did this show know more about Star Trek than any of the recent other shows.
Anyway I watched it... Well done efour.
It was so, so annoying. I think I managed two episodes.
We watched TNG episodes A Matter of Honor and The Measure of a Man last night and tonight.
Such great episodes. Excellent writing and acting. Why can't Star Trek be like this anymore
Because the people writing it don't like it or have any respect for the fans. It's just a messaging platform for their Hollywood politics. You can't make good shows that way, especially not in genre tv or film.
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Slowly getting through star trek back log of binge watching...
Really not sure what to make of ST
iscovery or ST:Burnhman its feels like marmite, even if it did have its Pros and Cons. Still a confusing mess was it remotely canon or kelvin sort of reboot or soft trek reboot?
Really not sure what to make of ST
iscovery or ST:Burnhman its feels like marmite, even if it did have its Pros and Cons. Still a confusing mess was it remotely canon or kelvin sort of reboot or soft trek reboot?Slowly getting through star trek back log of binge watching...
Really not sure what to make of ST
It's canon. Just lousily written, produced, and (mostly) acted and directed. Once in a while they'd screw up and make something watchable. The rest of the time...only the Section 31 TV film in the stuff set in the main universe is as utterly wretched, and the only Trek project that's genuinely worse is Into Darkness (because it took the best Trek film of them all in Wrath of Khan, tried to remake it and missed on every. Single. Beat).
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Guess we just have to ignore the entire klingon thing....once again
Star trek lower decks and prodigy is also cannon according to google, getting through prodigy now hopefully if gets better. Lower decks was awesome though.
I actually enjoyed Produdy and Lower Decks. Yes both officially canon.Guess we just have to ignore the entire klingon thing....once again
Star trek lower decks and prodigy is also cannon according to google, getting through prodigy now hopefully if gets better. Lower decks was awesome though.