*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Phixsator]

not bad then

So fare so good. Though there still are some driver quirks.. Just had an update today that fixes some of those but its the nature of the beast with these Arc GPUs. I might just keep this and see how things are going with the 9070 launch. I don't have my hopes up for a price point that I can be happy with anyway and knowing AMD they will most likely just lower the price after a few months if it is poorly priced. I certainly want more performance than what this little B580 can offer but it is a decent stop gap while waiting.

 

[Game]

So fare so good. Though there still are some driver quirks.. Just had an update today that fixes some of those but its the nature of the beast with these Arc GPUs. I might just keep this and see how things are going with the 9070 launch. I don't have my hopes up for a price point that I can be happy with anyway and knowing AMD they will most likely just lower the price after a few months if it is poorly priced. I certainly want more performance than what this little B580 can offer but it is a decent stop gap while waiting.

thats my view the 6700xt has served me well and will last till I can get the "Deal"

 

[michty_me]

What display you on @michty_me ?

At the minute 2540*1440 but I keep toying with the idea of going Ultrawide or up to 4k.

 

[harmattan]

That actually makes this whole thing much clearer (for me).

Thanks

Should have mentioned I have this from a relative insider who I trust (even though it's no revelation)

 

[Boomstick777]

I'm still in two minds if I even need an upgrade just now and maybe best to wait for UDNA coming from a 3080 FE. I feel I'm still in the skip this generation camp really.

I'm with you on this, still not sure if I need a new GPU. My current 3070 seems to run Kingdom Come: Deliverance II, 1440P @ Ultra settings fine so far. Not sure I really need a new card. I could be swayed if a new card had a great price to performance ratio, but I can't see it happening after how woeful Nvidia's launch has been.

 

[Icyseanfitz]

Should have my 7900xtx Friday (competitor with a no question asked 30 day return window), I'm hoping we get some concrete ideas of what the hell these cards will perform/price at within the next month. If it's similar raster to a 7900xtx with better RT I'll definitely return and buy a 9070xt

 

[Jacky60]

I am looking at the timespy extreme estimate of 14,500 for the Asus 9070XT at stock, looking at the 330 watt limit and thinking - yep thats a fast card that is like a 4080 but not really too power hungry.

The 4080 was crazy expensive at times, if the 9070XT (AIB) is the card that can get a 4080 (AIB) level of performance into peoples hands for 800 GBP inc. (AIB) that seems like a good deal to me.

On the flip slide to that the 5070ti, its the card that Nvidia have been forced to make due to the 9070 series but on the other hand, it might not be as power efficient as you would expect. Nvidia really need a die shrink. The 5080 is dissapointing in the perf and power draw department.

£800 for 4080 level performance is what we've had with the 7900XTX for nearly two years. OK that's not it's msrp but they are selling for $799 including copy of Starfield in the US right now and have often been available at that price in the UK. At £800 that isn't progress its regression and if AMD expect to sell that level of performance at that price especially with less RT performance then they're in for a rude awakening. £650 is where that level of performance has to be to gain market share and mind share.

 

[Jacky60]

799inc. 9070XT (AIB) is absolutley appealing if you can buy one directly from OCUK.

If you need to buy a 5070ti from a scalper on fleabay, it is not appealing at any price.

Nvidia have been very good at offering a 5070ti founders edition type-of-card that you can't buy for 799inc but you are able to get a 5070ti type-card in AIB form for 899+

No it isn't that's incredibly poor value for the 9070XT. £600-£650 IS appealing.

 

[gpuerrilla]

At the minute 2540*1440 but I keep toying with the idea of going Ultrawide or up to 4k.

For me 4070Ti or lower is not a jump up and even the Blackwell Ti or the 9070XT isn't much to shout about. This leaves a 4080/5080 as the step up but they wont be worth the AIB scalper prices, so you really need to snag an FE or close to msrp unit. Could be wrong about the 9070XT, I hope I am but that does really need to be under £700 to make any waves.

 

[Jono8]

799inc. 9070XT (AIB) is absolutley appealing if you can buy one directly from OCUK.

No it isn't. Not even close.

 

[Rob_B]

It’s about 35% faster and typical for going up a new node and architecture. Nothing at all out of the ordinary… unless you are Nvidia and give half that as an increase then release at fake MSRP.

There's 2 different things here, original performance of the 9070XT and generational leaps.

The text I responded to was:

9070xt was to perform between 7900 GRE and 7800 Xt. They've now pushed power a bit to get it right smack between XT and XTX, so around 4080 original.

Generationally yes, it's faster obviously. To say that it was built to a certain performance profile THEN pushed 'a bit' to make it ~20/30% faster ON TOP OF THAT, cannot be correct.

 

[michty_me]

For me 4070Ti or lower is not a jump up and even the Blackwell Ti or the 9070XT isn't much to shout about. This leaves a 4080/5080 as the step up but they wont be worth the AIB scalper prices, so you really need to snag an FE or close to msrp unit. Could be wrong about the 9070XT, I hope I am but that does really need to be under £700 to make any waves.

I don't think I could justify the cost of a 4080/5080 as an upgrade either. It would need to be similar priced to my MSRP 3080 FE or less but if the 9070XT hits the rumoured 4080 speeds (If true) then it may be worth a look in depending on price. Even then, I would likely wait for sales as I would not be in a rsh to be first to buy one.

 

[gpuerrilla]

I don't think I could justify the cost of a 4080/5080 as an upgrade either. It would need to be similar priced to my MSRP 3080 FE or less but if the 9070XT hits the rumoured 4080 speeds (If true) then it may be worth a look in depending on price. Even then, I would likely wait for sales as I would not be in a rsh to be first to buy one.

I see, but there's no way even the 5070Ti is going to stoop as low as the 3080FE, being AIB for first few months its fantasy thinking otherwise. Even though the 9070 will be in that ballpark you just know certain games it will fall short on. At 5 to 600 pounds though its a great spec and this is not really the card for people on 40 series or the 7900's either tbh.

 

[BKUK]

I see, but there's no way even the 5070Ti is going to stoop as low as the 3080FE, being AIB for first few months its fantasy thinking otherwise. Even though the 9070 will be in that ballpark you just know certain games it will fall short on. At 5 to 600 pounds though its a great spec and this is not really the card for people on 40 series or the 7900's either tbh.

Yeh if it offers a decent raster and RT bump I’d be tempted to upgrade from my 6900xt. What with selling that card for a few hundred it wouldn’t be bad. But again in fairness the 6900xt is still no slouch in 1440p raster, just the rt falls well short.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yeh if it offers a decent raster and RT bump I’d be tempted to upgrade from my 6900xt. What with selling that card for a few hundred it wouldn’t be bad. But again in fairness the 6900xt is still no slouch in 1440p raster, just the rt falls well short.

TBH,with an RX6900XT unless you are running lots of RT heavy games,it probably will suffice until the next generation IMHO.

 

[xtal191]

Wish they'd get a move on and give us some info so I can decide between the 7900xtx and 9070xt

 

[BKUK]

TBH,with an RX6900XT unless you are running lots of RT heavy games,it probably will suffice until the next generation IMHO.

Yeh I would use it for RT. But obv will wait and see what the final reviews and price are.

 

[Icyseanfitz]

Wish they'd get a move on and give us some info so I can decide between the 7900xtx and 9070xt

The logical thing to do imo would be wait for the 5070ti release this month and do an event or reveal within a week of that, if they want to steal nvidias thunder

 

[MyBrainz]

No it isn't that's incredibly poor value for the 9070XT. £600-£650 IS appealing.

£600-£650 is really not appealing at all when AMD said the XT is targeting the 7900GRE which is currently £500-£580..

The 3080 was £650 MSRP and now xx70 tier cards at £650?

I dont mind a price rise as long as the performance % is higher than the price rise % but it seems the other way around these days.

Reading these forums it is so obvious how conditioned some people have become around here while losing their minds at the same time.

£600-£650 for the 9070XT? Where does that put the 9060XT and 9060 then? £500-£550 and £400-£450?

People are really losing the plot and I hope AMD sort this out because at those prices I'll buy one more GPU before I bow out of PC gaming altogether and if that means spiting AMD and waiting to get a 5070 at MSRP then so be it.

 

[sx_turbo]

£800 for 4080 level performance is what we've had with the 7900XTX for nearly two years. OK that's not it's msrp but they are selling for $799 including copy of Starfield in the US right now and have often been available at that price in the UK. At £800 that isn't progress its regression and if AMD expect to sell that level of performance at that price especially with less RT performance then they're in for a rude awakening. £650 is where that level of performance has to be to gain market share and mind share.

I think that's where the reduction in vram has come from and in turn the price will also be less.

AMD have said they will be pricing aggressively, so I think $650-700 for the 9070xt would be about right. Think the 5070ti is RRP $749 so it definitely won't be more than that, AMD usually price their cards slightly less than Nvidia.