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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

Murphy said:
Not sure what I've done now but whatever.
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I assumed that quoting you in my reply was clear enough. Here's an explanation:

You wrote this:
Murphy said:
So instead of spending the same amount of money to get more performance you choose to get the same performance but save £100?

Why am i finding that hard to believe, could it be that outside of the money is no object type of people I've never heard of someone deciding on what GPU to buy based exclusively on performance, how most people seem to set a budget rather than a minimum required FPS.
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You never heard of someone doing that. Now you have heard of someone doing that. More than one person. There are people who don't set a fixed budget and spend all of it, never spending less regardless of what's available at a price lower than their budget. There are people who set their budget as a maximum spend, not a required spend.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Chinese leakers say the RX9070 series is going to be priced aggressively:
wccftech.com

AMD Rumored To Price Radeon RX 9000 GPUs 'Aggressively' To Compete With NVIDIA

AMD might price the Radeon RX 9000 GPUs so aggressively that it may also affect the sales of their existing mid-range GPUs.
wccftech.com wccftech.com
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Still vague since they generalised the card name. The leak could in theory mean that the base 9070 could go up to £600!

With that said it's a leak and I get at least a little bit excited when I see some news. It's the most we've had for about 10 pages :D
 
If AMD want to really gain the marketshare they have to price extremely aggressively, even making a loss if they have to for long term gain. As their top chap said developers are not incentivised to optimise for a platform with 15% marketshare even if they could. (Case in point the WoW DX12 crashing bug on the 7000 series which has still not been fixed as far as I am aware).

My fear though is even if they do this, they might not be able to actually produce enough cards to meet demand. Fab capacity is a finite resourcce there's only so many silicon wafers to go around.
 
Marak said:
If AMD want to really gain the marketshare they have to price extremely aggressively, even making a loss if they have to for long term gain. As their top chap said developers are not incentivised to optimise for a platform with 15% marketshare even if they could. (Case in point the WoW DX12 crashing bug on the 7000 series which has still not been fixed as far as I am aware).

My fear though is even if they do this, they might not be able to actually produce enough cards to meet demand. Fab capacity is a finite resourcce there's only so many silicon wafers to go around.
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They can price aggressively, but then it’s down to the retailers that have turned into scalpers that are ruining it. Only got to look at the 50 series prices.
 
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AMD are not really missing any major features or performance this time around. The hardware and software will be excellent.

There isn't a single gaming feature that seems to be missing from the spec sheet, it won't run hot and it will be a very powerful card.
 
Besty said:
AMD are not really missing any major features or performance this time around. The hardware and software will be excellent.

There isn't a single gaming feature that seems to be missing from the spec sheet, it won't run hot and it will be a very powerful card.
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Any more info on it, Mystic Meg? :D

I have no hopes for this card now. I’m sure it’ll be another good card, ruined by AMD’s management.
Just waiting for Intel to do something, because it’s difficult to support the other two.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
I have no hopes for this card now. I’m sure it’ll be another good card, ruined by AMD’s management.
Just waiting for Intel to do something, because it’s difficult to support the other two.
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Regardless of how AMD decides to price their new cards, improving raytracing and providing a solution that can compete with DLSS would be nice. Intel releasing something more powerful than the B580 would also be interesting to see.
 
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9070xt was to perform between 7900 GRE and 7800 Xt. They've now pushed power a bit to get it right smack between XT and XTX, so around 4080 original. RT will be better, but still lag marginally from the card its closest to in raster, so around 4070 ti.

It's all about pricing (street, not fake-out MSRP/RRP)
 
harmattan said:
9070xt was to perform between 7900 GRE and 7800 Xt. They've now pushed power a bit to get it right smack between XT and XTX, so around 4080 original. RT will be better, but still lag marginally from the card its closest to in raster, so around 4070 ti.

It's all about pricing (street, not fake-out MSRP/RRP)
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That actually makes this whole thing much clearer (for me).

Thanks ;)
 
To go from between the 7800XT and 7900GRE to between the 7900XT & XTX is more than just pushing it 'a bit'

Taking numbers from HUB, 1440P

7800XT - 108
7900GRE - 113
7900XT - 139
7900XTX - ? More but hub have the XTX matching a 4080

So 110 > 140+ avg fps would be massive, I'd be impressed if true but find it unlikely.
 
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Rob_B said:
To go from between the 7800XT and 7900GRE to between the 7900XT & XTX is more than just pushing it 'a bit'

Taking numbers from HUB, 1440P

7800XT - 108
7900GRE - 113
7900XT - 139
7900XTX - ? More but hub have the XTX matching a 4080

So 110 > 140+ avg fps would be massive, I'd be impressed if true but find it unlikely.
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It’s about 35% faster and typical for going up a new node and architecture. Nothing at all out of the ordinary… unless you are Nvidia and give half that as an increase then release at fake MSRP.
 
harmattan said:
9070xt was to perform between 7900 GRE and 7800 Xt. They've now pushed power a bit to get it right smack between XT and XTX, so around 4080 original. RT will be better, but still lag marginally from the card its closest to in raster, so around 4070 ti.

It's all about pricing (street, not fake-out MSRP/RRP)
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Almost right. I would say it was always aimed at above 7900 GRE and around 7900 XT performance. So about 25% to 35% over the 7800 XT.
 
Phixsator said:
Surprisingly good. I'm playing a bit of Once Human atm and everything is buttery smooth which I didn't expect. Sure settings aren't maxed but running it 3440x1440 with FSR quality and pushing 100+ fps at all time. No blurry mess just clean acceptable graphics. Also tried a bit of Dying Light 2. Same thing. Mostly high settings at 3440x1440 with FSR 2 on quality and pushing around 70-100 fps.

EDIT: One thing that seems odd and must be me/my eyes, but FSR seems less blurry than on my 6950XT and no, I'm not using XeSS as it likes to crash my games all the time :P, so still some software quirks. Overall experience so fare is positive. Pair this GPU with a cheap 5700X3D and you got a solid gaming rig for not much money.
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not bad then
 
Havana_UK said:
I'm still happy with my 7900XT, and I don't play any games that rely heavily on RT. I will closely be watching the 9070(XT) release though to see how things pan out!

I think at anything <£700, especially if it can trade blows with a 4080S/5070Ti, AMD will have a winner on their hands.
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your in the skip a generation territory for me tops I will pay is £600 and thats if I can get a decent price for my 6700xt
 
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