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AMD Zen 5 rumours
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These things are usually 2PM
AMD admits the Ryzen 9 9950X3D may not be faster than the 9800X3D in gaming
In an interview with VideoGamer, AMD's product and business development manager, Martijn Boonstra, revealed that the 9950X3D and 9900X3D will deliver "similar overall gaming performance" to the...
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It seems it might be blows traded each way, but likely only by the 9950 not the 9900
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Hard to imagine the 9950X3D ( or 9900X3D ) will be significantly faster than a 9800X3D at gaming. After all, one of the CCD's in the 9950X3D is in essence a 9800X3D. If the higher base clock frequency is maintained, then the 9950X3D could be fractionally faster, but if core "parking" is still an issue then that ( along with the added latency between the two CCDs ) could make it fractionally slower.AMD admits the Ryzen 9 9950X3D may not be faster than the 9800X3D in gaming
In an interview with VideoGamer, AMD's product and business development manager, Martijn Boonstra, revealed that the 9950X3D and 9900X3D will deliver "similar overall gaming performance" to the...
It seems it might be blows traded each way, bit likely only by the 9950 not the 9900
9800X3D is 1 x CCD (1x8C) with 3D cache
9900X3D is 2 x CCD (2x6C) only 1 with 3D cache
9950X3D is 2 x CCD (2x8C) only 1 with 3D cache
dual CCD chips still need parking to stop gaming running on the 'wrong' CCD, as such the 9900 is slower than the 9800 as it has fewer cores for gaming.
Yeah assuming no power/heat issues with the higher core count then it might be a tad faster, but I'd imagine it'll be very close in gaming.
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As above, it's only one 3D cache core isn't it?
It's a hard sell, same with the 7900X3D, as only 6 cores for gaming is likely to be an issue in the near future.
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I'm guessing it's some technical limitation but I wonder why they do 2 6 core ccds instead of an 8 core and a 4 core
Cost and 'faff' - The CCDs are 8 cores, so they use 2 'defective' CCDs where 1or 2 cores don't work and fuse them off.
If they used 8+4 they'd need to:
a) Use a full working 8 core that they could use in the 9950X3D/900X3D (3D cache is expensive to add so you want to use things efficiently)
b) Potentially cut off 2 working cores to make a 4-core.
They use 6 cores for 9600X already so it probavbly a balancing act of yields vs demand but I'd imagine they have fewer 4 cores that 6 cores
If they used 8+4 they'd need to:
a) Use a full working 8 core that they could use in the 9950X3D/900X3D (3D cache is expensive to add so you want to use things efficiently)
b) Potentially cut off 2 working cores to make a 4-core.
They use 6 cores for 9600X already so it probavbly a balancing act of yields vs demand but I'd imagine they have fewer 4 cores that 6 cores
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AM6 when?
Core parking wasn’t an issue as long as you followed the correct steps when installing the drivers etc.
Sorry, have to disagree on this. Later BIOS updates improved the situation, but it was still an issue for many people. A quick Google search or trawl through Reddit etc is proof.
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Haven't seen anything official, but that's the configuration of both the 7900X3D / 9900X and as far as we're aware the only real change in the architecture is how the 3D V-cache is implemented.
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I owned the 7950x3d and had no issues. Game bar enabled, balanced power plan, chipset drivers (from AMD website) and make sure game bar is updated. Every now and then you might have to tick a box “remember this is game”.
That’s it!
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AMD admits the Ryzen 9 9950X3D may not be faster than the 9800X3D in gaming
In an interview with VideoGamer, AMD's product and business development manager, Martijn Boonstra, revealed that the 9950X3D and 9900X3D will deliver "similar overall gaming performance" to the...
It seems it might be blows traded each way, but likely only by the 9950 not the 9900
Reviews are out tomorrow.
So hopefully see the performance.
If it has the power of the 9950X with the gaming performance of the 9800X3D, then I will be very happy.
Just hope there is plenty of stock available.
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I was waiting for the 9950x3D myself, but I put my order in the other week for all my stuff and ordered the 9950x. I don't game but I wanted it for encoding would it have been worth waiting for the 3D version? or would I just be better off saving the extra money and keep the 9950x.
I still have a few parts on pre-order so still got time to change it.
I still have a few parts on pre-order so still got time to change it.
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mainly waiting for UK pricing at the moment - Should be about £650.