Jeffrey Epstein

MatsyLR said:
So your saying a bunch of women who are putting together a list, can't collaborate? And there won't be a few bad eggs in the bunch?
Sorry but proof is needed further than just claims.
There needs to be something outside of the groups control (although I'm not clued up on what is already out there)

It would be a horrible thing to lie about....but...
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I take it you don't realise that witnesses are a form of proof long used in the legal system and the more witnesses makes the proof more reliable.

I do realise some accusers lie for various reasons but just completely dismissing them all out of hand seems unreasonable.
 
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ANDREW GREEN said:
I take it you don't realise that witnesses are a form of proof long used in the legal system and the more witnesses makes the proof more reliable.

I do realise some accusers lie for various reasons but just completely dismissing them all out of hand seems unreasonable.
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If there's something else sure, claims and testimony are not good enough on their own. Not sure how it works legally but surely there has to be something else. Specifically something outside of the claimants control that matchs up.
 
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MatsyLR said:
If there's something else sure, claims and testimony are not good enough on their own. Not sure how it works legally but surely there has to be something else. Specifically something outside of the claimants control that matchs up.
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But on that measure you'd consider Jimmy Saville innocent and nearly every convicted rapist to be innocent
 
MatsyLR said:
If there's something else sure, claims and testimony are not good enough on their own. Not sure how it works legally but surely there has to be something else. Specifically something outside of the claimants control that matchs up.
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His partner (in crime) Ghislaine Maxwell was sent to prison for 20 years based on this sort of testimony, so I think it’s got pretty good standing.

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Not surprised to see Mandelson on there. The guy is made of Teflon. Have no idea how he hasn't done any jail time let alone being in the house of lords!
 
adam cool dude said:
Not surprised to see Mandelson on there. The guy is made of Teflon. Have no idea how he hasn't done any jail time let alone being in the house of lords!
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Twice sacked from the cabinet, at least once for property dealings and at least once more than Rayner.

Perhaps she could be our next "man" in Washington?
 
adam cool dude said:
Not surprised to see Mandelson on there. The guy is made of Teflon. Have no idea how he hasn't done any jail time let alone being in the house of lords!
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Mandelson is gay, I doubt he was schtupping the teenagers along with Epstein, Bill, and Trump, but this picture from his message to Epstein strongly suggests he knew:

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I don't think everyone associated with Epstein is guilty and I don't think they all knew - he was a big money guy with powerful connections - but there were also plenty who knew and were willing to tolerate it because he gave them money and connections; and also a good number who were just as twisted as him.

(The whole birthday book is up here)
 
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Mr Jack said:
Mandelson is gay, I doubt he was schtupping the teenagers along with Epstein, Bill, and Trump, but this picture from his message to Epstein strongly suggests he knew:
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Is this some kind of codeword ? Eatstair/stain instead (it could be catstain or catstair too) ? :confused: :cry:

Cursive is an utterly pointless writing style if people are left guessing what the words are, doctors are particularly egregious with their ciphers /rant

On topic though, Epstein & Maxwell probably trafficked both sexes, he has been accused of SA with men - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...f-sexual-abuse-by-male-teen-intern-in-lawsuit
 
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Mr Jack said:
Mandelson is gay, I doubt he was schtupping the teenagers along with Epstein, Bill, and Trump, but this picture from his message to Epstein strongly suggests he knew:

n9mNWWo.jpeg


I don't think everyone associated with Epstein is guilty and I don't think they all knew - he was a big money guy with powerful connections - but there were also plenty who knew and were willing to tolerate it because he gave them money and connections; and also a good number who were just as twisted as him.

(The whole birthday book is up here)
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I am sure he got a couple of boys for him kind of like how you make an effort when a vegan comes round to dinner.

What is with all the blacked out bits? Where is Clinton?
 
Mr Jack said:
Mandelson is gay, I doubt he was schtupping the teenagers along with Epstein, Bill, and Trump, but this picture from his message to Epstein strongly suggests he knew:

n9mNWWo.jpeg


I don't think everyone associated with Epstein is guilty and I don't think they all knew - he was a big money guy with powerful connections - but there were also plenty who knew and were willing to tolerate it because he gave them money and connections; and also a good number who were just as twisted as him.

(The whole birthday book is up here)
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That picture is pretty horrific.
 
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