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Which brand new EV did you buy to help the transition?
I brought up the subject of Norway as a counter to the argument that EVs don't work in colder climates when their buying public determines otherwise. It might have something to do with warming them up remotely in the morning so they're clear of snow and frost and being all toasty inside
. However, as has been said already it's probably more down to he fact that electricity is between 2 to 4 times cheaper in Norway than in the UK.
I think the fact that the Norwegian government actually invested in a proper and comprehensive charging network, rather than relying on oil companies to do it.I brought up the subject of Norway as a counter to the argument that EVs don't work in colder climates when their buying public determines otherwise. It might have something to do with warming them up remotely in the morning so they're clear of snow and frost and being all toasty inside
An advantage of when your country effectively is the oil company...
Norway had loads of incentives for people to switch to EV. Like. Use of bus lanes if not a single driver.
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A Geordie was trying to run the UK networks much cheaper apparently, but he said Norway man.
Norway is what the UK could have been if we had better decision making in the 80s
That would be a very off-topic discussion but that is a whole discussion of its own a lot of it going back to the consequences of WW2 for the UK and the short term decision making by Thatcher when faced with the realities of a changing world post-WW2 when we had the opportunity to become world leaders in certain industries, etc.
Not quite, the wrong choices were made post war, the countries that were successful, even those that ran state owned industries, did so because they embraced and ran things on a commercial basis. The UK went for politically run nationalisation of key industries, run by politics rather than economics. This worked for a while, but was resulting in a significant falling behind by the late 60s, resulting in all the challenges of the 70s, which in turn drove the change in the 80s, and a highly negative attitude towards state ownership that is strongly present even today among those who are old enough to have experienced the level of service and quality of product from those industries.
The key point here is that when economics and politics conflicts, economics always wins out. We could indeed have had world leading industries, even with state ownership, if we'd ensured politics stayed out of the running of those industries.
Charge place Scotland used to be free but have started charging over the years.
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I know what you’re saying but this can be read so many different ways…
Indeed, and the scheme is coming to an end.
By the end of 2026 all CPS chargers should have moved to other (private sector) operators or abandoned.
CPS was only ever intended to provide interim cover particularly in rural communities that would otherwise never make a business case to deploy chargers otherwise. Bit of a contrast to conversation above about ownership because the network is indeed better in Scotland than in England from the trips I've done, and singlehandedly so because of CPS.
Just as an update on this, all was fine on the drive up and down. I stopped halway-ish at Dundee both times and my charging speeds were excellent, so it seems like it's largely down to the car not being warm enough when I get to a charger locally (which I expected) and not warming up sufficiently as it charges (which I didn't).
The range and efficiency on the both trips was fine too; I'd been a bit anxious about it as a few people had been moaning on the various R5 owner groups that they were getting pitiful range even from a full charge in colder weather so I did wonder if I might need to stop for a second top-up at any point, but it was never a problem for me.
My range and the Quessometer (GOM) changes a lot depending if I'm doing only urban vs long trips. I think thats partly because on a long trip I'm only getting the interior up to temp for maybe 20% of that journey, because it stays warm a lot. Whereas it's 100% on local short trips. Also on a long trip driving fast keeps the battery at a more efficient temp vs stuck in traffic from cold.
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I watched an interesting video from the Autogueful channel today. The potential new VAG platform, will go down the route of REX and BEV combined platforms. I think this is a sensible approach moving forward, it still points to huge battery future, but has the flexibility for those that cant transition easily or those that need a long range. Will be interesting to see how the other legacy makers move forward, esp the real dinosaurs like Toyota.
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