The RX Vega 56 Owners Thread

[henson0115]

Anyone else tested a rift on vega 56 can't get any display at all via hdmi yet it was working fine on the 390 before the swap. Tried reinstalling oculus home, repairing etc etc

 

[Jimbu]

So.. tried 17.8.1 - same thing, literally no way to install the drivers with this card in - same error as everyone else and also tried 17.8.1

Also using gigabyte ga-z68xp-ud3... with 2500k, unbelievable AMD - guessing this is going back fairly shortly like others in that AMD thread above

Will try and install with my 290 - which i imagine will be fine, appears the minute you swap over to the vega it bluescreens anyway.

Someone did have success with windows 7. I'm currently installing it on a spare drive to see what happens.

 

[slunge]

Someone did have success with windows 7. I'm currently installing it on a spare drive to see what happens.

I dual boot - have already installed on my win7 just now... works fine - no tweaks, just out the box...

its just an issue with win10 / vega / that driver / older mobos

Utter joke ;( I only got a 40gb win7 install for playin older stuff, my 10 install is where all my games are... so i can either put my 290 back in for win10, or play quake on win7 untill the fix the drivers!

 

[MagicBoy]

I was about offer to test it, then remembered my Dell Precision with an X58 has only one 6-pin....

 

[slunge]

I was about offer to test it, then remembered my Dell Precision with an X58 has only one 6-pin....

comically - yours would be about as useful as mine with full power - neither of them would work

:edit:

Just tried putting my 290 back - and installing those same 17.8.2 drivers, works fine... so in conclusion:

vega 56 - win7 x64 - 17.8.2 - works fine

r9 290 - win10 x64 - 17.8.2 - works fine

vega 56 - win10 x64 - 17.8.2 - utter fail

for time being - im stuck on my old 290

 

[solarp]

Came in last night.

No haribo either, the lady is most upset.

I make no apologies for the state of my cabling.

 

[FelixB]

I dual boot - have already installed on my win7 just now... works fine - no tweaks, just out the box...

its just an issue with win10 / vega / that driver / older mobos

Utter joke ;( I only got a 40gb win7 install for playin older stuff, my 10 install is where all my games are... so i can either put my 290 back in for win10, or play quake on win7 untill the fix the drivers!

My Windows 10 partition died before I got Vega. Probably part of the "Destructors Edition" update.

Still, it's not a major problem. Just make a shortcut to your game binaries on the Windows 10 drive and you can run them under Windows 7.

 

[FelixB]

Have you got an old x58 setup? I have the same problem when installing drivers.

Seems there may be an issue with older systems and the Vega cards

https://community.amd.com/thread/219437

After trying pretty much everything I'm returning the card and probably going for a 1070, which suddenly have gone up in price.

I half expected to find problems using Vega in PCI 2.0 systems. AMD HSA uses PCI 3.0 AtomicOps when dispatching compute kernels on Vega in the ROCm platform. The same tech will likely go into Vulkan multi-GPU support as part of "next gen crossfire". So, the fact that Vega drivers are continuing to work with PCI 2.0 under Windows 7 is a nice surprise. The fact that Windows 10 screws it up is sadly predictable.

I have an AMD PCI 2.0 system (A85X) that seems to support Vega under Windows 7. When I have a working Windows 10 disk then I'll plug it in and see if Vega works.

 

[slunge]

I half expected to find problems using Vega in PCI 2.0 systems. AMD HSA uses PCI 3.0 AtomicOps when dispatching compute kernels on Vega in the ROCm platform. The same tech will likely go into Vulkan multi-GPU support as part of "next gen crossfire". So, the fact that Vega drivers are continuing to work with PCI 2.0 under Windows 7 is a nice surprise. The fact that Windows 10 screws it up is sadly predictable.

I have an AMD PCI 2.0 system (A85X) that seems to support Vega under Windows 7. When I have a working Windows 10 disk then I'll plug it in and see if Vega works.

question is - is this fixable in drivers? for those of us in this situation

 

[Jumper118]

after 5 or so hours of testing i have come to the conclusion that the best way to run vega 56 is with the vega 64 bios and the vega FE power play table.
Stock bios
http://hwbot.org/submission/3640248_jumper118_3dmark___fire_strike_radeon_rx_vega_56_19684_marks/
Vega 64 bios+ FE powerplay
http://hwbot.org/submission/3641132_jumper118_3dmark___fire_strike_radeon_rx_vega_56_20517_marks/

muchos improvements. 64 bios allows hdm to run at vega 64 speeds as the mem voltage is 1.35v instead of 1.25v. the 64 powerplay table is ok vs 56 but tbh its not as stable and you cant get P6 and P7 as close together so the clock jumps around more and the card is less stable. the memory also runs quick on the fe power play for some reason. The bios flash is very easy and pretty safe with the dual bios, as it the regedit for the power limit.

If anyone is running a water block on vega 56 you would be mad not to to these mods. for air coolers you will need to run higher fan speeds but i ran mine on air with fan at 4900rpm and balls to the walls oc with only limit being vcore rather than power limit it only hit 71c max in all my testing in a 24-26c room.

 

[FelixB]

question is - is this fixable in drivers? for those of us in this situation

If Windows 7 can do it with the new AMD drivers then it is not a hardware problem. There should be no reason why Windows 10 can not be patched to work like Windows 7, or why the new drivers could not be patched to work with Windows 10 in the same way that the old drivers did. Either way, cooperation between AMD and Windows should resolve the problem one way or another. It is nobody's interest to break Vega on Windows 10. This problem will go away, and hopefully quickly.

In the longer term, it might prove difficult to implement new features (like replacements for crossfire) on PCI 2.0 systems, but that it is why we upgrade our hardware.

 

[FelixB]

after 5 or so hours of testing i have come to the conclusion that the best way to run vega 56 is with the vega 64 bios and the vega FE power play table.
Stock bios
http://hwbot.org/submission/3640248_jumper118_3dmark___fire_strike_radeon_rx_vega_56_19684_marks/
Vega 64 bios+ FE powerplay
http://hwbot.org/submission/3641132_jumper118_3dmark___fire_strike_radeon_rx_vega_56_20517_marks/

muchos improvements. 64 bios allows hdm to run at vega 64 speeds as the mem voltage is 1.35v instead of 1.25v. the 64 powerplay table is ok vs 56 but tbh its not as stable and you cant get P6 and P7 as close together so the clock jumps around more and the card is less stable. the memory also runs quick on the fe power play for some reason. The bios flash is very easy and pretty safe with the dual bios, as it the regedit for the power limit.

If anyone is running a water block on vega 56 you would be mad not to to these mods. for air coolers you will need to run higher fan speeds but i ran mine on air with fan at 4900rpm and balls to the walls oc with only limit being vcore rather than power limit it only hit 71c max in all my testing in a 24-26c room.

Nice work in 5 hours!

Steve and Buildzoid have been working for much longer on GamersNexus (see http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3040-amd-vega-56-hybrid-results-1742mhz-400w-power/page-2). They have squeezed it up to 22500 on Fire Strike without extra cooling and up to 24000 with GPU-only water cooling. A water block might do better. You will have to trawl through their videos to find out how, but I think that they got there with just the lower power Vega 56 BIOS (DIP switch to the right).

 

[Jumper118]

Nice work in 5 hours!

Steve and Buildzoid have been working for much longer on GamersNexus (see http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3040-amd-vega-56-hybrid-results-1742mhz-400w-power/page-2). They have squeezed it up to 22500 on Fire Strike without extra cooling and up to 25000 with GPU-only water cooling. A water block might do better. You will have to trawl through their videos to find out how, but I think that they got there with just the lower power Vega 56 BIOS (DIP switch to the right).

I have seen them already. I actually got the Vega 64 bios and regedit files from buildzoid.

He is testing the Vega 64 atm and he was also using Vega fe power play because he sent me that instead of the 64 one and it ended up working better even though I was using a 64 bios not the fe bios XD. He then tried the FE power play himself on the Vega 64 and he agreed that it was faster and more stable. I actually tested it on stock bios yesterday for 2 hours or so, then today I spent 5 hours on it. Most of the problems was getting the right pcie slot as the Asus ix apex says slot 1 is slot 0001, x370 tiachi slot 1 is 0000 and my gigabyte x99 soc champion slot 1 is 0003 but after i put the 64 bios on the card it became 0004.

Took 3 attempts to get right pcie slot.

 

[T.Kay]

after 5 or so hours of testing i have come to the conclusion that the best way to run vega 56 is with the vega 64 bios and the vega FE power play table.
Stock bios
http://hwbot.org/submission/3640248_jumper118_3dmark___fire_strike_radeon_rx_vega_56_19684_marks/
Vega 64 bios+ FE powerplay
http://hwbot.org/submission/3641132_jumper118_3dmark___fire_strike_radeon_rx_vega_56_20517_marks/

muchos improvements. 64 bios allows hdm to run at vega 64 speeds as the mem voltage is 1.35v instead of 1.25v. the 64 powerplay table is ok vs 56 but tbh its not as stable and you cant get P6 and P7 as close together so the clock jumps around more and the card is less stable. the memory also runs quick on the fe power play for some reason. The bios flash is very easy and pretty safe with the dual bios, as it the regedit for the power limit.

If anyone is running a water block on vega 56 you would be mad not to to these mods. for air coolers you will need to run higher fan speeds but i ran mine on air with fan at 4900rpm and balls to the walls oc with only limit being vcore rather than power limit it only hit 71c max in all my testing in a 24-26c room.

Which driver are you using, mine states that my gpu can't be recognised and the driver isn't verified.

 

[sideways14a]

I think i will almost certainly be putting an AIO on the 56 like GN has, a stable 17xx mhz core and 1075 mem look doable with a 100mv drop on the voltage to my chip - prob a big 3 fan rad like my cpu has just to keep them the same.

Vega 56 at 1700 or so mhz is no slouch, i have a 22725 firestrike run at 1645 so add 100mhz more that i might see with water and your talking overclocked aftermarket 1080 territory at least for circa £370 plus whatever cooler your using. Not a bad deal even with the additional power needed.

 

[Kaapstad]

Came in last night.

No haribo either, the lady is most upset.

I make no apologies for the state of my cabling.

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[Jumper118]

Which driver are you using, mine states that my gpu can't be recognised and the driver isn't verified.

17.8.2

 

[joxang]

VEGA 56. Unable to install without bsod. Hugely disappointed.

Like others, running older set-up with PCIE2: i5 2600k with Gigabyte P67-UD4

From these threads it sounds like it's an issue with Windows 10, the driver, and older mobos?
https://community.amd.com/thread/219437
https://community.amd.com/thread/219546

If not resolved by Monday I will return and buy a 1080 . Was really looking forwards to gaming this weekend.

 

[slunge]

VEGA 56. Unable to install without bsod. Hugely disappointed.

Like others, running older set-up with PCIE2: i5 2600k with Gigabyte P67-UD4

From these threads it sounds like it's an issue with Windows 10, the driver, and older mobos?
https://community.amd.com/thread/219437
https://community.amd.com/thread/219546

If not resolved by Monday I will return and buy a 1080 . Was really looking forwards to gaming this weekend.

yup, same on every level

 

[Marine-RX179]

VEGA 56. Unable to install without bsod. Hugely disappointed.

Like others, running older set-up with PCIE2: i5 2600k with Gigabyte P67-UD4

From these threads it sounds like it's an issue with Windows 10, the driver, and older mobos?
https://community.amd.com/thread/219437
https://community.amd.com/thread/219546

If not resolved by Monday I will return and buy a 1080 . Was really looking forwards to gaming this weekend.

Kinda glad I wasn't in a rush to get at VEGA card, considering I got hardware of the same gen and Win10 as well!