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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
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depends on what clockspeed your 3770k is, your gpu and gaming res of course.
but ryzen 3000 will definitely see an upgrade in comparison to the 3770k
depends on what clockspeed your 3770k is, your gpu and gaming res of course.
but ryzen 3000 will definitely see an upgrade in comparison to the 3770k
480 Nitro 8gig GPU and stock for the GPU (not overclocked since the AMD X2 days). I mainly play CS:GO and battlefield 1944 at the moment. I think they're a little CPU heavy @ 1080p.
You’re not the only one, I’m almost over the edge. Just need a little nudge.
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¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬there's the edge.....................................................just take that small step for mankind
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Nope, there's a few ITX boards announced, an mATX, and even a mini-DTX. I don't know if they'll all be available at launch though!
Soldato
My current R5 2600 is faster than my 3770 non-K @ 4.1GHz was in any task you'd care to throw at it. Mind, the 3770 was badly hurt by the Spectre/Meltdown 'fixes' in my experience. I ended up using InSpectre to kill the fixes for gaming. What have you got your 3770K clocked at?
I'm thinking the new chips are going to be in a different universe to IvyBridge, let alone being merely 'better'. Especially if you have the patches in place to mitigate against Spectre, Meltdown and whatever else Intel ****** up on this week...
I think there are also a few eATX, but they are at the very top end.
The Gigabyte Aorus Exreme is EATX; but it's also extreme overkill on the power, and VRM compared to the rest.
All of the desktop boards will standard sizes.
The price isnt terrible, just disappointing vs the hype, and also not enough for me to upgrade from what I have, for someone on much older hardware e.g. say sandy bridge this would be a reasonable upgrade.
Yet now that we finally have progress in the form of more cores per CPU, people are whining and moaning about 12c/24t for $499, that will sit on a motherboard (with socket) that you could have owned for 2 years already, and may last another generation, and then how ever long after before it is retired.
2016 - Mainstream Desktop - 4c
2017 - Mainstream desktop - 8c
2019 - Mainstream desktop - 16c
Bigger gap in the last two, but it proves the point that people are complaining about progress, because they personally have no use for it. I remember when I got my 200MMX, cost a small fortune, but man it was a huge upgrade from my Pentium 120.
16c is far from been mainstream
I dont know when £600+ cpu's were ever considered mainstream, so not mainstream either on price point or expected performance level.I would say zen2 will probably finally push mainstream to 4c. 70% of hardware on steam is still 2c.
8c will be upper end, 16c enthusiast/professional.
the problem is the installed user base, theres a lot of people who play games on some old kit around the world. just look at gpu;s not talking high end kit being the mainstream.
cpu cores are changing slowly but just imagine how vast that 4 core user base is from over a decade of 4 cores being the main stream and even high end in some case. will be a few years before that drops down to under 25%.
cpu cores are changing slowly but just imagine how vast that 4 core user base is from over a decade of 4 cores being the main stream and even high end in some case. will be a few years before that drops down to under 25%.
I see the slide as flawed.
It doesnt show different timings on the same memory clockspeed so e.g. 3200CL14 vs 3200CL12.
The industry is still very lacking in these tests. I posted some results some weeks ago and got slammed for it, but no one bothered to do their own tests to provide evidence against my own claims.
However the slide does suggest latency is king, and memory bandwidth is secondary (but also helps).
It's important for games and more reviewers need to include it in their standard testing.