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snow patrol · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:05

i'm hearing mixed reports about the 3900 on the 450 tomahawk. Anyone confident to tell me it'll work fine (at stock). Got all the bits here and really hoping to build tomorrow

orbitalwalsh · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:07

Troezar said:
At 4k not a lot of difference. Obviously I'd go Ryzen for the upgrade path but if you're well off go Intel and upgrade the CPU and motherboard when they release something faster.

3700x/3800x depending on budget - if going for 1440p 165hz monitor then 9700k as leads by 15 fps on average

orbitalwalsh · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:08

snow patrol said:
i'm hearing mixed reports about the 3900 on the 450 tomahawk. Anyone confident to tell me it'll work fine (at stock). Got all the bits here and really hoping to build tomorrow

@Journey might be able to help. Personally with 3900x and looking for MSI would go x570 Carbon - but similar price to x570 Gigabyte Gaming X

Sargatanas2511 · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:13

robfosters said:
I’m not even getting it on one core

Then yes I agree there is an issue. They need to sort it out quick before lawsuits appear.

rallyslag · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:15

ArchAnGeL said:
And don’t be a noob like me and fail to consider psu connections have moved on (8 + 4 pin cpu power needed on my board). I ended up rushing out for a new PSU pushing the budget up

2500k here as well.
I never ever concidered that and just checked my Corsair xt850w to find it only has one 8 pin conector.. More money !! oh well morning shoping on oc . Just need to look at power suplly revues first..

DarrenM343 · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:18

Josu said:
This ryzen kills my patience. amd as always with cpu, not prepared for sales. Date is more important than happy customer

One of the issues buying AMD stuff early I think (going on history) but issues should be sorted soon. It's one of the reasons I'd prefer to go 3950X - all the platform issues will be sorted by then

Minstadave · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:21

DarrenM343 said:
One of the issues buying AMD stuff early I think (going on history) but issues should be sorted soon. It's one of the reasons I'd prefer to go 3950X - all the platform issues will be sorted by then

Cooling that will be a challenge by the looks of it.

snow patrol · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:25

orbitalwalsh said:
@Journey might be able to help. Personally with 3900x and looking for MSI would go x570 Carbon - but similar price to x570 Gigabyte Gaming X

must admit i'm tempted to get a 570 and return the 450. Won't get delivery until next week though i suppose. If it saves me the headaches of trying and possibly failing to get things going on the tomahawk, plus i'm getting a more advanced chipset, i think i can stomach the price increase .... just

snow patrol · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:34

....done - return issued for b450 tomahawk. A shame i never got to play with her

now, which x570 to get....don't want to spend any more than 300 absolute max but preferably less of course. Will favour more usb3 ports over stuff like wifi which isn't needed. MSI again?

andy_mk3 · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:36

rallyslag said:
2500k here as well.
I never ever concidered that and just checked my Corsair xt850w to find it only has one 8 pin conector.. More money !! oh well morning shoping on oc . Just need to look at power suplly revues first..

AFAIK it will work on the 8-pin only perfectly fine.

orbitalwalsh · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:39

snow patrol said:
must admit i'm tempted to get a 570 and return the 450. Won't get delivery until next week though i suppose. If it saves me the headaches of trying and possibly failing to get things going on the tomahawk, plus i'm getting a more advanced chipset, i think i can stomach the price increase .... just

One main advantage of newer chipsets and this is said by all vendors is that they get all the attention for Bios updates . Get it running perfectly on newer systems then work to the older ones . AC is a damn good board with 6 and 8 cores, fair play to them .
X570 is easier for someone that wants to slap I. 3600hz ram and do nothing - more plug and play

Wondering if MSI b450 will rise higher ..

URDragonHunter · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:39

rallyslag said:
2500k here as well.
I never ever concidered that and just checked my Corsair xt850w to find it only has one 8 pin conector.. More money !! oh well morning shoping on oc . Just need to look at power suplly revues first..

I think you'll find that you can get away with just connecting a 8pin connector for the cpu and ignoring the 4pin (which is what I've done with my x470 motherboard). Buildzoid in a video mentioned that the extra 4pin is not really necessary.

pcfarrar · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:46

ljt said:
Should be able to use it. It will just extend your sub by 3 months

The free 3 months game pass with Ryzen converted to 2 months of Game pass ultimate when I redeemed the code.

rallyslag · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:47

URDragonHunter said:
I think you'll find that you can get away with just connecting a 8pin connector for the cpu and ignoring the 4pin (which is what I've done with my x470 motherboard). Buildzoid in a video mentioned that the extra 4pin is not really necessary.

To be honest i would rather not even though i did see Buildzoids comments! And considering my psu is 8 years old and not modular may be a change is not such a bad thing.

robfosters · 13 Jul 2019 at 08:59

rallyslag said:
To be honest i would rather not even though i did see Buildzoids comments! And considering my psu is 8 years old and not modular may be a change is not such a bad thing.

Can’t go wrong with a Superflower. Absolutely love em.

snow patrol · 13 Jul 2019 at 09:02

orbitalwalsh said:
One main advantage of newer chipsets and this is said by all vendors is that they get all the attention for Bios updates . Get it running perfectly on newer systems then work to the older ones . AC is a damn good board with 6 and 8 cores, fair play to them .
X570 is easier for someone that wants to slap I. 3600hz ram and do nothing - more plug and play

Wondering if MSI b450 will rise higher ..

thanks - i opted for more ram rather than faster...32gig of 3200 stuff. I'm happy to do a bit of tweaking but as i said, not looking to overclock.

Just seems to be so much choice of 570, it's a bit overwhelming. i'm thinking the asus prime x570 p fits the bill..

rallyslag · 13 Jul 2019 at 09:04

robfosters said:
Can’t go wrong with a Superflower. Absolutely love em.

It does seam Superflower and Seasonic are the flavours of the month at the moment?

Gibbo · 13 Jul 2019 at 09:21

rallyslag said:
It does seam Superflower and Seasonic are the flavours of the month at the moment?

Super flower and seasonic are a couple of the best PSU manufacturers.

adrichardson81 · 13 Jul 2019 at 09:30

snow patrol said:
....done - return issued for b450 tomahawk. A shame i never got to play with her

now, which x570 to get....don't want to spend any more than 300 absolute max but preferably less of course. Will favour more usb3 ports over stuff like wifi which isn't needed. MSI again?

It's a tough call - I went OB to buy the Ace in the end just because it brings a lot more to the table. IIRC the lower models all use the same VRM as each other, so it's really just a case of feature comparison and bios options (I justified the Ace as I want 3x m.2 without adapters and WiFi, with a good VRM stage in case I go 16c further down the line).

The Taichi definitely offers a lot if you compare it to any of the £275 - £300 boards.

adrichardson81 · 13 Jul 2019 at 09:32

rallyslag said:
It does seam Superflower and Seasonic are the flavours of the month at the moment?

My Leadex Gold 1300w gave me 8 years of trouble free gaming. Went for a focus+ gold 850w this time as they're an absolute steal if you wait for offers.

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