Depends what your doing with the PC, since my main use is gaming I'm comfortable running at 1.375.
If you run a lot of core heavy workloads then you would want a lower voltage.
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If you run a lot of core heavy workloads then you would want a lower voltage.
Ok cool might just revert to my previous pbo setting which saw 4.3 on single core but less on multi. No bother makes very little difference to me and pc is main work horse for all my Dev stuff so better keep it safe.
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I'm also considering temps as I was seeing consistent 55C playing Horizon Zero Dawn today for a few hours and 70C running CB20 several times on my 12 core 3900X. I don't believe 1.3 is excessive if you need it to maintain stability with a mild OC.
Previously I looking more at CPU Die (avg) under HWiNFO64 for an indication as the single core boosting was spiking a lot higher in CPU (Tctl/Tdie) but now both are very similar with the CTR all core OC. Much calmer and no fan ramping etc.
Previously I looking more at CPU Die (avg) under HWiNFO64 for an indication as the single core boosting was spiking a lot higher in CPU (Tctl/Tdie) but now both are very similar with the CTR all core OC. Much calmer and no fan ramping etc.
Cool ok, well have reverted for the moment. I wasn't seeing temps above 70 degrees with cinebench and gaming was in 55 (running h100i) so all seemed good there. However as it makes so little difference to me I have reverted back until I know more. Once I jump on a Navi of some type next year I will likely grab a 5900X anyhow. Cheers for input.
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Totally agree the hardware these days is so optimised there's not much left to squeeze out. My last platform was an i7 5820K + X99 board and the first OC option in the BIOS added 600 MHz to the boost clock without any effort. I am seeing 10% gain in CB20 which is more than I was expecting but to me that's a benchmark as I mostly game anyway. Gamer Mode is probably still the best way to game on the 3900X for now anyway.
Looks like the dev has possibly found the issue and a fix for those of us having problems on gigabyte boards.
https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1312085959731752960
CTR and nearest plans
Hello, everybody! My colleague Vadym Kosmin offered me an idea, how to improve the algorithm, so that you no longer have BSOD. I plan to release this update in a few days. It will also improve compatibility with ASRock and Gigabyte motherboards.
https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1312085959731752960
CTR and nearest plans
Hello, everybody! My colleague Vadym Kosmin offered me an idea, how to improve the algorithm, so that you no longer have BSOD. I plan to release this update in a few days. It will also improve compatibility with ASRock and Gigabyte motherboards.
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Why the need for unnecessary image sizes?
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Mine is no better @Mr Krugga although the AIO I have keeps cores at low 50's.
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This is the best stable result I can manage on my 3900 (non-X).
6 Cores @ 4.3Ghz and the other 6 Cores @ 4.225Ghz - 1.375v
My CB20 reference / starting score was 7160.
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I ran mine today, got 1256mv at 4350mhz.
I reckon I could push 4.4 with a zero or a very small vcore increase.
Score is 3679
I reckon I could push 4.4 with a zero or a very small vcore increase.
Score is 3679
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Same, I noticed that in certain games my FPS tanked big time. Pube-g was one of them, literally halved my frame rate.
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If that's the case what's the point in this app...
Glad I held off trying. Doesn't seem worthwhile.
Not from a gaming perspective anyway.
Glad I held off trying. Doesn't seem worthwhile.
Not from a gaming perspective anyway.
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Can anyone confirm how to roll back any changes this has made please?
Just a case of Reset Profile? Completely lost interest in it now that I've thought about it as any gaming benefits are pretty much zero and I've read a few times now negative performance in games
Just a case of Reset Profile? Completely lost interest in it now that I've thought about it as any gaming benefits are pretty much zero and I've read a few times now negative performance in games
Yeah the point of the tool is too find a stable all core max o/c at a certain (hopefully lower) voltage but this will obviously be at the expense of a lower max single core boost.
It is also a little conservative on the voltage and PBO limits, PPT, TDC, EDC.
3900X on Aorus Pro, PPT/TDC/EDC
Mobo default PBO 142/95/140
Mobo max PBO 9xx/4xx/4xx (can't remember the exact numbers here but one of the PBO settings in bios shows numbers in this range in RM)
CTR default PBO 175/115/170
I think CTR will also limit itself to 1.35v or 1.3v.
At the moment I'm testing manual PBO at 180/120/177 as that seems a nice balance between perf and temp, better perf than the 142/95/140. A lot less heat, slightly lower perf, than the stupidly high bios max values.
If you know what you are doing with BIOS overclocking and have the time to test and dial it all in you're going to get better results.
But I think the tool is good for people who don't have the time and also for those that do but want to find some quick starting values to base an o/c or u/v off of.
To roll back changes I think you just need to make sure the option to load profile at log in is turned off.
I believe if that is enabled it adds a scheduled task to apply the profile.
So just make sure that option is turned off and that there is no scheduled task.
It also stores temp files in "%localappdata%\Nemesis_UIv2" , removing that should restore it's default settings if you run it again.
It is also a little conservative on the voltage and PBO limits, PPT, TDC, EDC.
3900X on Aorus Pro, PPT/TDC/EDC
Mobo default PBO 142/95/140
Mobo max PBO 9xx/4xx/4xx (can't remember the exact numbers here but one of the PBO settings in bios shows numbers in this range in RM)
CTR default PBO 175/115/170
I think CTR will also limit itself to 1.35v or 1.3v.
At the moment I'm testing manual PBO at 180/120/177 as that seems a nice balance between perf and temp, better perf than the 142/95/140. A lot less heat, slightly lower perf, than the stupidly high bios max values.
If you know what you are doing with BIOS overclocking and have the time to test and dial it all in you're going to get better results.
But I think the tool is good for people who don't have the time and also for those that do but want to find some quick starting values to base an o/c or u/v off of.
To roll back changes I think you just need to make sure the option to load profile at log in is turned off.
I believe if that is enabled it adds a scheduled task to apply the profile.
So just make sure that option is turned off and that there is no scheduled task.
It also stores temp files in "%localappdata%\Nemesis_UIv2" , removing that should restore it's default settings if you run it again.
Just unclick the option to load the profile at boot and then reboot the computer
The OC is only valid until the computer reboots as its not done in the bios
Having tried various OCs and both in BIOS and out using software like CTR & Ryzen Master I came to the conclusion that its mostly pointless outside of trying to get high synthetic bench scores
In all cases single core performance suffers and gaming fps suffers too
It really does seem better to just leave Ryzen as it comes and let the BIOS boost it as it sees fit
In all cases single core performance suffers and gaming fps suffers too
It really does seem better to just leave Ryzen as it comes and let the BIOS boost it as it sees fit
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Now i know what my overclock can be, I can manually edit it.
4.35ghz at 1256mv
I'll just push to 4.4 with the same cvore or add a small offset.
Has anyone got their 3600 to 4.5ghz? When I change it in the BIOS, the value goes red...
4.35ghz at 1256mv
I'll just push to 4.4 with the same cvore or add a small offset.
Has anyone got their 3600 to 4.5ghz? When I change it in the BIOS, the value goes red...
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That's because you, along with most of the forum on here just don't understand how Ryzen works.
If you are only interested in clocking via Ryzen master and by CTR, then you have to accept that you really have little to no control over bios settings from that point onwards. Most changes you make in the bios will be over ridden by Ryzen master and CTR as soon as you are booted to Windows.
The most important decision peeps should make is, do i want to clock by the bios or Ryzen master. The reality is it has to be one or the other......................you simply can't mix both together and expect the best result. If you want to do things through just the bios, then simply do not install Ryzen Master.