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Scougar said:
What's your CB20 score?

My 3600 is low as well in terms of Mhz. I am using stock cooler which isn't helping. Going to try the updated version.

I'm regretting my choice a little instead of getting the X lol. I know in the next round I'll be getting something a little better assuming prices are not astronomical.

EDIT: finally put CB20 in the folder... it keeps not completing CB20, as it overheats (80C) lol.
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My 3600 is poor binned as it was early batch. My take on it is to just upgrade to either a new 5600 equivelent (some mad variants seem to be released over the year) or pickup a 3700X when the prices drop more. When I do that change, I will also swap out my old AIO for a new cooler as its 6 years old.
 
Scougar said:
What's your CB20 score?

My 3600 is low as well in terms of Mhz. I am using stock cooler which isn't helping. Going to try the updated version.

I'm regretting my choice a little instead of getting the X lol. I know in the next round I'll be getting something a little better assuming prices are not astronomical.

EDIT: finally put CB20 in the folder... it keeps not completing CB20, as it overheats (80C) lol.
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My score after CTR was 3711. You wanna ditch the stock cooler. It's abysmal!

I tried it again after my last post but aimed for 4.3ghz at 1.280v and now have 4.2 on both CCX's.
 
2Thumbs said:
My score after CTR was 3711. You wanna ditch the stock cooler. It's abysmal!

I tried it again after my last post but aimed for 4.3ghz at 1.280v and now have 4.2 on both CCX's.
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I didn't realize how bad the cooler was until yesterday lol. I am definitely going to have to replace it. On release of the 5xxx series, I 'may' donate the 3600 to replace my daughters 1600 in her B350 board... or build my wife a PC instead, and upgrade myself again lol.

I think I'm putting the brakes on CTR/OC'ing now I see how bad the cooler is.

Side note: I have got 37xx in CB20 with just 3600 memory, and I think 4100. I guess that was a run where it didn't overheat lol. It varies between 3450 and 3600 in general at present (so throttling)
 
Scougar said:
I didn't realize how bad the cooler was until yesterday lol. I am definitely going to have to replace it. On release of the 5xxx series, I 'may' donate the 3600 to replace my daughters 1600 in her B350 board... or build my wife a PC instead, and upgrade myself again lol.

I think I'm putting the brakes on CTR/OC'ing now I see how bad the cooler is.

Side note: I have got 37xx in CB20 with just 3600 memory, and I think 4100. I guess that was a run where it didn't overheat lol. It varies between 3450 and 3600 in general at present (so throttling)
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I don't know if you've tried it, but if you run the diagnostic on CTR it'll give you options for both overclocking and undervolting, considering the stock cooler is so shocking you could try the undervolting values. I believe with mine it said I could run it at 4.1ghz at 1.115v which should drop your temps considerably.
 
chaosophy said:
CTR I can't get to complete for me but people are getting good results it seems.
The docs for it say that stable memory is a must, so maybe run CTR first at stock mem to get the CPU dialled in first?

Saying that though I did DRAM calc first - as CTR wasn't out - at the time and it gave me a decent uplift in mem performance.

Also, for anyone that has got this working on a Aorus mobo can you think of any BIOS setting etc you may have done that helped?
I've tried so many different things and just can't get it to fully complete the second stage. :(

ta.
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Think there are a few people with the Aorus Motherboard having issues. When I ran the first release it said my CPU was anything from Platinum to Bronze. I then updated to the latest version and get the 'Critical error. Core tags are no defined' error message even though I've checked that the right settings are applied in the BIOS. According to 1Usmus tweets there will be a new version in the next couple of days. I'd say it's very heavily in beta. I'd, personally, wait it out until the bugs are fixed.



M.
 
I had a go last night. Beta one completed a run once, but then caused restarts every subsequent run.

Beta 2 seemed a lot better and I haven't had any problems with restarts. But I did have some instability earlier. I's say the stress test is all right for gaming and benching but I wouldn't use it for a PC used for work or mining.

My CPU had what seems to be two strong-ish CCXs and two weaker ones.

1.2V got me around the same cinebench score but with lower power. I'm going to have another go later any try tweaking some things.
 
2Thumbs said:
I don't know if you've tried it, but if you run the diagnostic on CTR it'll give you options for both overclocking and undervolting, considering the stock cooler is so shocking you could try the undervolting values. I believe with mine it said I could run it at 4.1ghz at 1.115v which should drop your temps considerably.
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I'll give it another go. P.S. in CTR temps were fine. In CB20 that's where the problem was lol.

Let you know shortly

EDIT: It recommended 3900Mhz @ 1.175v. lol. Guessing this chips just sucks.
 
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Scougar said:
I'll give it another go. P.S. in CTR temps were fine. In CB20 that's where the problem was lol.

Let you know shortly

EDIT: It recommended 3900Mhz @ 1.175v. lol. Guessing this chips just sucks.
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Temps were the same for me. Cinebench hits the cores harder than CTR does when it's testing after each clock step.

It could be the chip, or it could be the VRM on the motherboard.
 
Nutty_Death said:
There's bugs but I'd also say a lot of the issues are user error from not reading the guide properly.
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I've read the guide back to front more than once and either there is something specific in my set up that the program/documentation doesn't account for, or the program is being too aggressive somehow.

Even with my mem set to the timings from 1usmus' DRAM Calc, there is nothing I've run that I've even seen an error out of, let alone something that crashes the PC.
CTR, even with mem on 'auto' - 2400MHz CL16, down from it's XMP of 3600MHz CL14 - will hard reset the PC within minutes of running the stress test.

At it's defaults it's pretty conservative with it's settings for Max Temp/PPT/EDC/TDC, so pretty sure it's not those.

Think next I'll play with the CCX delta as that defaults to 150MHz but when running it seems to only use a delta of 75MHz.
And from keeping an eye on it it is just upping the MHz on the worst CCX until it causes the hard reset.

Looking at HWiNFO I think I have a delta of more like 300MHz, ~4,350 to ~4,650 MHz.
So one decent CCX, one less so. :(
Annoyingly the tool only seems to have a max selectable delta of 250MHz.


fyi, for anyone who is playing with the default values and gets stuck and wants to reset them, the app seems to save them in...

%localappdata%\Nemesis_UIv2\

If you delete the files from there CTR will open back up with the defaults when you run it.
 
I've been playing about with this since finishing work for the day and after running the diagnostic tool with work vm open it showed my chip as silver. Without work open it shows gold every time and now score 7773 in cb20, so not bad.
 
m4cc45 said:
Think there are a few people with the Aorus Motherboard having issues. When I ran the first release it said my CPU was anything from Platinum to Bronze. I then updated to the latest version and get the 'Critical error. Core tags are no defined' error message even though I've checked that the right settings are applied in the BIOS. According to 1Usmus tweets there will be a new version in the next couple of days. I'd say it's very heavily in beta. I'd, personally, wait it out until the bugs are fixed.



M.
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Yeah, seen a lot of peeps with Aorus boards and 3900X's that are having issues with hard resets.

The core tags error I think is normally to do with needing to delete your System event log.

I'm guessing it is reading EventID 55 from there and using those to populate the scores next to each core.
If the numbers to the right of the frequency on each core are showing 100 (or possibly 0 or not there) then you'll need to clear the system event log and reboot.
If you check that log after reboot and look for EvenID 55 from Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Processor-Power you should see one for each logical thread.
The line/value I think the tool uses is...

"Maximum performance percentage: 160"

As the numbers match up. Mine go from 122 to 160.

I guess these are passed to the o/s from the CPU/BIOS so windows can do it's scheduling to preferred cores etc but no idea when the are generated or if they are hard coded at the factory?

It looks like CTR gets the wrong values if the o/s was previously booted on different hardware, my guess it is it just reads the event log from oldest entry forward, when it should probably do it from newest backwards, possibly using system uptime - current time to narrow the search.
 
OK, upped the temp limit so it wouldn't stop the CB early on the first test.

3588 score @ 1.256v (i get vdroop with this on my board :( ). 4025ccx0/4050ccx1
 
I gave this a go and I certainly wouldn't trust it for a "stable" everyday overclock for now, it should be used as a starting point or undervolting.

As my Ryzen 3600 gets set to 4550MHz on both CCX's which may be stable enough for a few CB20 runs and some short P95 runs it really isn't actually stable when gamming etc. My stable everyday overclock (manual) is 4400GHz as with weeks of testing I was getting instability down until 4450GHz when gaming (anything from 1 minute in to 2 hours in) which never showed up in CB20 or P95
 
3900x Silver sample

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Not 100% stable, and dont have the time for tweaking atm, but shows promise
 
The bug is fixed in Beta 3 that caused the Reference 6000+ mhz issue

Unfortunately rating my 3600 as Platinum was also a bug because its just run Diagnostic and now its Bronze!

Recommended values for OC are -

4GHZ @ 1250mV

Undervolt -

3850mhz at 1175mV

How do you pick which one you want OC or UV before hitting start and is it even worth it!?
 
Scougar said:
What's your CB20 score?

My 3600 is low as well in terms of Mhz. I am using stock cooler which isn't helping. Going to try the updated version.

I'm regretting my choice a little instead of getting the X lol. I know in the next round I'll be getting something a little better assuming prices are not astronomical.

EDIT: finally put CB20 in the folder... it keeps not completing CB20, as it overheats (80C) lol.
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Changing to non-stock cooler will def help, but i went down the manual OC route with my 3600. I'm running at 1.25v and 4.3ghz. So far, it's been rock solid. I think I can tune the vcore with an offset, which I will try over the weekend.
 
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