It's funny how (fuel shortages)

[Hades]

I personally want the UK to go to **** due to brexit so that we can have another referendum and rejoin

It won't and we won't (and I say that as someone who voted to remain). There will be seveal years of pain and adjustment. Then the difficulties will be overcome and things will go on as normal just without the pro's and con's of free movement etc. I'm not convinced the initial fuel delivery shortage was caused by Brexit although it does seem to be a factor in other delivery shortages. But in a few years salaries for drivers will rise back up again to levels they were before we joined the Common Market and UK drivers will be attracted back to the industry. Anyone who thought there would not be a period of pain and adjustment was deluded. It will come right in the end. But I'm still not convinced this particular issue is Brexit caused.

 

[Chris Wilson]

It won't and we won't (and I say that as someone who voted to remain). There will be seveal years of pain and adjustment. Then the difficulties will be overcome and things will go on as normal just without the pro's and con's of free movement etc. I'm not convinced the initial fuel delivery shortage was caused by Brexit although it does seem to be a factor in other delivery shortages. But in a few years salaries for drivers will rise back up again to levels they were before we joined the Common Market and UK drivers will be attracted back to the industry. Anyone who thought there would not be a period of pain and adjustment was deluded. It will come right in the end. But I'm still not convinced this particular issue is Brexit caused.

Thank you Hades for a little clear headed sanity in a flurry of bile and resentment.

 

[MookJong]

We survivced the fuel crisis in 2000, we will survive this.

The gas issue is more worrying.

 

[200sols]

Haha.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

What a load of ****, Its a 1 day course and the only thing you need to do is stick a earth spike under your back tyre when your dumping the fuel to pump or filling the wagon. Oh and how to phone the firebrigage if you get a leak even if your have the absorbent snakes.

Its one of those skilled jobs that has been riddled by health and safety idiots who have nothing better to do than justify their own existence in the workplace.

What’s more dangerous, transporting a trailer full of McDonalds ‘food’ and rolling out a few cages when you get to the other end or transporting a trailer full of highly flammable liquid and pumping it into some tanks when you get to the other end?

Im sure it’s fine 99.9% of the time but the consequences of getting it wrong can be rather catastrophic compared to some spilt milkshake.

 

[cheesefest]

Whoever posted in the media about this should be held accountable

Every media platform has contributed to this. Even today, front page stories with photos of either long queues or pumps with ‘pump out of order’ plates on them.

 

[Hades]

Thank you Hades for a little clear headed sanity in a flurry of bile and resentment.

 

[dlockers]

What’s more dangerous, transporting a trailer full of McDonalds ‘food’ and rolling out a few cages when you get to the other end or transporting a trailer full of highly flammable liquid and pumping it into some tanks when you get to the other end?

Im sure it’s fine 99.9% of the time but the consequences of getting it wrong can be rather catastrophic compared to some spilt milkshake.

Clearly never walked past McDonalds Kentish Town when they are unloading

 

[norm]

Even the US has a truck driver shortage now.

Will we see driverless trucks in the next ten years that's the question, I know they already exist in the US but only for specific routes. It really is a problem that could be so brilliantly solved by tech.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Clearly never walked past McDonalds Kentish Town when they are unloading

No probably not!

 

[the shadow]

Clearly never walked past McDonalds Kentish Town when they are unloading

Stoke https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mcdonalds-asked-to-pay-valet-24765650

 

[Eddie]

I've just learned that petrol has a sell-by date, never knew that.

2 + 2 = ?

 

[Fourstar]

There was no fuel shortage until news blew it out of proportion. Tanker driver jobs are something that doesn't come up often.. BP was the only company that had issues with 20 stations, that was it.

Part of that BP leak that appears to have precipitated this crisis was that nationally their forecourt inventory levels were 25% below normal and they were unable to reverse declining inventories. Hence shutting sites to increase supplies to their remaining sites.

Esso reported problems at a small number of sites.

The rest of the sector we know nothing beyond their public statements of reassurance. While I am sure there is enough capacity nationally there are at minimum indications of stress and demand approaching capacity. These are the conditions in any industry where a hiccup can quickly snowball.

 

[Dis86]

I totally understand that there is a sudden and unexpected demand. But that's due to everyone panic buying. The question is what caused the initial minor shortage at a very small number of petrol stations, which then triggered the headlines and the panic buying.

One driver calling in sick.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Brexit is such a large and far sweeping issue, it is unsurprising it is being blamed.

A combination of COVID making folk rethink their choices, a booming economy that has meant folks savings have grown significantly, and they've saved a fortune by spending less.

Throw in IR35 changes and self-employment not making sense anymore for a lot of them.

And then Brexit has cut off a resource pool we would have tapped into previously.

Covid is just an excuse.

The real problem is brexit,

 

[cheesefest]

Part of that BP leak that appears to have precipitated this crisis was that nationally their forecourt inventory levels were 25% below normal and they were unable to reverse declining inventories. Hence shutting sites to increase supplies to their remaining sites.

Esso reported problems at a small number of sites.

The rest of the sector we know nothing beyond their public statements of reassurance. While I am sure there is enough capacity nationally there are at minimum indications of stress and demand approaching capacity. These are the conditions in any industry where a hiccup can quickly snowball.

Where I live, two new Shell PS have opened less than 2 miles from each other in the past 18 months! Within 3 miles from my address, I have 3 Shells, 3 Essos, 1 BP, 1 Sainsburys and another (keeps changing names)

 

[Hades]

EV drivers: "Engage smug mode"

 

[Hades]

The gas issue is more worrying.

I know someone who works in the gas industry and he says he would not be surprised if we have powercuts this winter.

 

[ElliorR]

Stoke https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mcdonalds-asked-to-pay-valet-24765650

Now that picture of him is classic Daily Mail <spit> sad face.

 

[tracertong]